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Old 02-18-2019, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Great article from Daily News. It is lawlessness .


The crisis on our streets that’s called homelessness should really be called lawlessness.

Local and state governments have stopped enforcing basic laws that are on the books to protect public health and safety. So we have lawlessness in the form of Wild-West shantytowns, strewn with garbage, that line our sidewalks, streets, hillsides, freeways, storm channels, bike paths and public plazas.

The city of Los Angeles should fight the Mitchell lawsuit and show the judge, and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, and if necessary the U.S. Supreme Court that there is a compelling reason to enforce a law against unauthorized camping. The city should insist that the law is necessary to protect public health and safety.

You can help. Have you had an experience that demonstrates a compelling reason to enforce laws against sleeping on the sidewalk? Send your photos and an account of your experiences to L.A. City Attorney Mike Feuer, with a copy to Councilman Joe Buscaino.

https://www.dailynews.com/2019/02/12...o-lawlessness/
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Old 02-18-2019, 08:52 PM
 
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Great article from Daily News. It is lawlessness .

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The crisis on our streets that’s called homelessness should really be called lawlessness.

Local and state governments have stopped enforcing basic laws that are on the books to protect public health and safety. So we have lawlessness in the form of Wild-West shantytowns, strewn with garbage, that line our sidewalks, streets, hillsides, freeways, storm channels, bike paths and public plazas.

The city of Los Angeles should fight the Mitchell lawsuit and show the judge, and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, and if necessary the U.S. Supreme Court that there is a compelling reason to enforce a law against unauthorized camping. The city should insist that the law is necessary to protect public health and safety.

You can help. Have you had an experience that demonstrates a compelling reason to enforce laws against sleeping on the sidewalk? Send your photos and an account of your experiences to L.A. City Attorney Mike Feuer, with a copy to Councilman Joe Buscaino.

https://www.dailynews.com/2019/02/12...o-lawlessness/
OK, then what? What are they going to do other than propose a 69 bed facility which will be protested by the neighborhood?

Get tough or live with it.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:01 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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But, it's not my circus, not my monkeys, so if you want to hook up with fullblooded and go do some vigilante stuff feel free, I sure won't stand in your way. Personally I don't care what you do, it simply doesn't matter to me. But to be honest it seems like the most frequent posters in this thread, i.e. the "natives of LA" do nothing more than get calluses on their fingers from typing the same stuff over and over and over.

Oh stop that. I've never suggested on this forum that anybody do ANYTHING that's illegal.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:03 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Well ... I suppose if the readers here want real reality, they should buy in to unverified information and anecdotal opinions posted by anonymous internet forum posters as opposed to following links to multiple credible professional sources that debunk the former. Yeah, that’s it. Go with the kvetchers!
Ever notice it's only you people who don't live here who deny what those of us who actually live here state about the homeless? What does that tell you?
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:10 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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Great article from Daily News. It is lawlessness .

—
The crisis on our streets that’s called homelessness should really be called lawlessness.

Local and state governments have stopped enforcing basic laws that are on the books to protect public health and safety. So we have lawlessness in the form of Wild-West shantytowns, strewn with garbage, that line our sidewalks, streets, hillsides, freeways, storm channels, bike paths and public plazas.

The city of Los Angeles should fight the Mitchell lawsuit and show the judge, and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, and if necessary the U.S. Supreme Court that there is a compelling reason to enforce a law against unauthorized camping. The city should insist that the law is necessary to protect public health and safety.

You can help. Have you had an experience that demonstrates a compelling reason to enforce laws against sleeping on the sidewalk? Send your photos and an account of your experiences to L.A. City Attorney Mike Feuer, with a copy to Councilman Joe Buscaino.

https://www.dailynews.com/2019/02/12...o-lawlessness/
Great article. We're under siege essentially by terrorists who assault people physically, traumatize and abuse children with sexual misconduct, cultivate biological weapons such as typhus infected fleas, etc. Whatever happened to this country's resolve to fight terrorism?
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Interesting article . So living in a converted garage or household with unrelated families makes someone “homeless “? Seems to be a loose definition .

Turns out some homeless people have ... “different immigration statuses” hmm interesting..

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“Chinchilla said she found Latinos are undercounted in the LAHSA homeless count because they are more likely to live in nontraditional homeless spaces, such as converted garages and households with multiple unrelated families, and less likely than other racial groups to use public services. She added that little research has been done on Latino homelessness.”

“Latino homeless individuals are also less likely to utilize homeless services because of their citizenship status, Chinchilla added. She said the population is composed of people with different immigration statuses, and as a result, some homeless individuals may refuse services in fear of being disqualified for citizenship.”


Latino homeless population found to be at disadvantage in outreach programs
https://dailybruin.com/2019/02/18/la...each-programs/
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:52 AM
 
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Great article. We're under siege essentially by terrorists who assault people physically, traumatize and abuse children with sexual misconduct, cultivate biological weapons such as typhus infected fleas, etc. Whatever happened to this country's resolve to fight terrorism?
Terrorists with criminal lifestyles driven by mental illness and drug dependency.... Terrorists that our supposedly elected officials and other vagrant wranglers want us to supply with our livelihoods, quality of life and personal belongings whenever they want to take them.
Terrorists, and the elected officials and other vagrant wranglers want us to pay for housing and caring for them 100% while they destroy everything around their locations- no accountability, no re-education, no boundaries, or supervision- let the tax money flow and let the vagrant wranglers make bank on their their cash cows..drugged out slaves really with crime and vagrancy as a way of life imposed on them to make a few folks lots of money. The vagrants need to be off the streets into secured, supervised facilities now...why do the libs want them out in the cold, suffering so badly? The oldest answer is correct- money.

Whats the point in time count for: to establish territorial boundaries for the money grab-- its been going on for years and the situation has only gotten more inhumane and dangerous....the amount of money stolen has skyrocketed along with the human misery,

Why won't the vagrant wranglers disclose exactly where the money is going? Don''t they know ? Should be very easy to let us all know - why no transparency?
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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OK Smarty Pants, I told you what needs to get done to solve your problem. If this isn't done, there will be no solution and you'll be stuck with vagrants. Unless you are willing to get TOUGH OR spend LOTS of money, you will continue to have vagrants.

Your typical homeless wimp will be picking 12 hours a day in the hot sun if he has had nothing to eat for three days.
We get rid of the three hots and a cot and put them to work. Prisoners are working all over the US.
Check this out...they aren't asking you for food, they aren't going to jump on your benevolent offer of 3 meals a day for working 12 hours a day. The homeless don't want anything from you, they want to be left alone. They aren't complaining, you are.
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Check this out...they aren't asking you for food, they aren't going to jump on your benevolent offer of 3 meals a day for working 12 hours a day. The homeless don't want anything from you, they want to be left alone. They aren't complaining, you are.
They want to be left alone ? That’s funny since when us L.A residents are out in public it’s typically the homeless that aren’t leaving us alone .

Panhandling , littering the streets with trash , shouting obscenities or making threats or increasingly according to LAPD violent crime .

Maybe the situation is different where you live , about 6 hours away
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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6 hours away and not having any contact with vagrants at all apparently. Maybe posturing and posting here about this disaster is a bucket list activity for some-that's fine...
The vagrants are left alone and not complaining for sure! They get the one benefit of being out doing whatever criminal activity they want with zero repercussions as long as they are part of the vagrant socio-economic program. What happens if they murder someone? they get a place to stay in a secured facility with three hots and a cot- almost a reward! Certainly they will only do more harm with the mandate before them.
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