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Old 11-26-2009, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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Anybody with an elementary understanding of Economics should realize that the high tax-nanny state model is a recipe for DISASTER. Like someone said, no large businesses will be relocating to Minnesota anytime soon because it would not make sense for a business to pay more taxes, if they can choose another 47 states in the nation that offer better tax incentives. What I find fascinating about Minnesota is the fact that taxes are awfully HIGH yet, it is never enough!

The bridge the collapsed a few years ago should have been a wake up call for those who believe that the government is really working for them. Even more absurd are those stupid commercials on TV stating that school are "underfunded" how the hell is that possible with all this money we pay in taxes?

Finally, I drove to Fargo last week and I could not believe how BAD 94 is between Maple Grove and Monticello, absolutely HORRIBLE. The average, defensive Minnesotan will say something like "We pay high taxes but we have good roads" I beg to differ!
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:00 AM
 
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Taxes are only one of the reasons a business may choose or not to locate to a region or state. Others include: access to resources, transportation, educated workforce, business clusters (e.g., medical device makers, defense contractors) and work ethic among others like quality of life. The Twin Cities has over 20 fortune 500 companies in the metro. I don't think they are leaving anytime soon.
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:18 AM
 
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Anybody with an elementary understanding of Economics should realize that the high tax-nanny state model is a recipe for DISASTER. Like someone said, no large businesses will be relocating to Minnesota anytime soon because it would not make sense for a business to pay more taxes, if they can choose another 47 states in the nation that offer better tax incentives. What I find fascinating about Minnesota is the fact that taxes are awfully HIGH yet, it is never enough!

The bridge the collapsed a few years ago should have been a wake up call for those who believe that the government is really working for them. Even more absurd are those stupid commercials on TV stating that school are "underfunded" how the hell is that possible with all this money we pay in taxes?

Finally, I drove to Fargo last week and I could not believe how BAD 94 is between Maple Grove and Monticello, absolutely HORRIBLE. The average, defensive Minnesotan will say something like "We pay high taxes but we have good roads" I beg to differ!
First, MN gives all kinds of tax breaks to businesses-heck, in outstate MN there are entire counties where businesses pay NO state taxes. As for the roads, well, they do fall apart and need to be fixed and that stretch of road you are talking about has some of the highest volume traffic in the state so the planning that needs to take place to fix it is quite involved.

Frankly, you will never be happy anywhere given your attitude. Perhaps you should buy an island somewhere and start your own country so you can have everything your way-and see how well it works.
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:22 AM
 
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Imagione how high our taxes would be if Pawlenty hadn't stood his ground against the DFL legislature ?
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:48 PM
 
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Imagione how high our taxes would be if Pawlenty hadn't stood his ground against the DFL legislature ?
Imagine how healthy our budget would be if Pawlenty wasn't so short sighted.
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Imagine how healthy our budget would be if Pawlenty wasn't so short sighted.
Yes, I agree.
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:06 AM
 
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State Senator Tarryl Clark constantly talks about expanding K-12 education to "birth-12 education"

That is what is wrong with certain state legislators----expanding a system that already has funding problems.

If funding K-12 is a mess( which it is) why talk about expanding it until the original program is taken care of ?
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Old 11-27-2009, 08:12 AM
 
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Imagine how healthy our budget would be if Pawlenty wasn't so short sighted.

And how high would the tax rates have to be to insure Minnesota still has a --healthy budget--in the midst of a severe recession ?
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:39 AM
 
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State Senator Tarryl Clark constantly talks about expanding K-12 education to "birth-12 education"

That is what is wrong with certain state legislators----expanding a system that already has funding problems.

If funding K-12 is a mess( which it is) why talk about expanding it until the original program is taken care of ?
Uh, the senator needs to get in touch with what is going on in the state-we already have birth-12 education in MN and have for 30+ years-ECFE (Early Childhood Education for birth-kindergarten and the regular schools for kindergarten to 12th).
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Old 11-27-2009, 10:41 AM
 
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And how high would the tax rates have to be to insure Minnesota still has a --healthy budget--in the midst of a severe recession ?
And how much have your taxes gone DOWN with Pawlenty and his reduced funding to everything in the state--sorry, I will gladly pay my taxes to not have to fund raise for every school event, have quality education and everything else that makes MN a great place to live. Try living in a low tax state like South Dakota or Arkansas and it will take you about 5 minutes to figure out that things aren't so bad in MN.
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