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re: keeping Jesus out of public school comment. That I agree with. Mohammed doesn't belong in public school either. But a tree with shiny ornaments and lights? give me a break.
The best solution is to move the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ to his actual birthday and then continue to celebrate the winter solstice on December 25th. As a lover of pine trees I am also a lover of Christmas trees.
This whole controversy started back in the Middle Ages with the Roman Catholic church trying to drown out the pagan celebration of the solstice by appropriating the solstice to the birth of Jesus. He was not born on December 25th.
This thread gives quite a picture of New Hampshire.
So you think Christmas is a universal holiday? You don't know that Jewish people, for instance, celebrate their holiest of holy days in October? One size fits all? Not in the land of e-pluribus-unum.
I know that I don't consider Christmas a universal holiday, although American commerce depends on the commercial aspect of it. However, the US has long been a christian majority nation.
And I am getting tired of our society's trend towards trying not offend the minority elements. I think it especially important in spiritual matters that extremely religious people need to grow a thicker skin and have a more open mind to others who practice a different faith or don't believe in a god at all. And the current major problem in the world today are the under-educated muslims who are so firmly entrenched in their version of their religion that they are violently physically attacking those of other faiths or who have a lifestyle or morals that go against they have been taught is right, like killing the cartoonists who drew an image of Mohammed. Or the suicide bombers thinking that they are going to be rewarded with 40 virgins after they carry out their mission. As an atheist, I am always amazed at the crazy fiction the devoutly religious believe in...
But anyway, I don't think that anyone who is extremely intolerant or offended by the differing beliefs of others should be allowed into the US, let alone move to NH.
The best solution is to move the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ to his actual birthday and then continue to celebrate the winter solstice on December 25th. As a lover of pine trees I am also a lover of Christmas trees.
This whole controversy started back in the Middle Ages with the Roman Catholic church trying to drown out the pagan celebration of the solstice by appropriating the solstice to the birth of Jesus. He was not born on December 25th.
The best solution is to not overstep the law and stop being pc to the point of lunacy. The same flyer with the same words has been put up 15 yrs prior without an issue
The best solution is to not overstep the law and stop being pc to the point of lunacy. The same flyer with the same words has been put up 15 yrs prior without an issue
I agree with you in regard to the principal's actions. It reeks of paranoia and ultra-PC nonsense. I am a bit saddened that this kind of thinking is occurring within the pragmatic confines of New Hampshire society.
Nonetheless, the Christmas tree has no real significance in Christianity so i stand behind my belief that the religious aspect of Christmas should be moved to a date that historians and theologians can compromise on as Jesus Christ's actual birthday and December 25th can be renamed 'Giftmas.' Then we can all appreciate Giftmas trees, strings of festive lights and the commercialism without offending anyone. I'm not big on the commercialism but I do like the lights and the social gatherings.
Think about this - we will all get an extra holiday out of my plan!
I agree with you in regard to the principal's actions. It reeks of paranoia and ultra-PC nonsense. I am a bit saddened that this kind of thinking is occurring within the pragmatic confines of New Hampshire society.
Nonetheless, the Christmas tree has no real significance in Christianity so i stand behind my belief that the religious aspect of Christmas should be moved to a date that historians and theologians can compromise on as Jesus Christ's actual birthday and December 25th can be renamed 'Giftmas.' Then we can all appreciate Giftmas trees, strings of festive lights and the commercialism without offending anyone. I'm not big on the commercialism but I do like the lights and the social gatherings.
Think about this - we will all get an extra holiday out of my plan!
Apparently the White House referred to Christmas Trees as Holiday Trees for the first time this year, which prompted Ben Stein, to say, on CBS Sunday Morning. Be sure to click on continue, & read to the bottom!
My confession: I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit up, bejewelled trees, Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are, Christmas trees.
It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas' to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach house in Malibu. If people want a nativity scene, it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.
I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.
Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities came from and where the America we knew went to.
In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.
Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina). Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said, 'I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?'
In light of recent events... terrorist attacks, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said okay.
Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.
Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'
Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell.
Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says.
Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing.
Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace.
Are you laughing yet?
Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us.
Pass it on if you think it has merit.
If not, then just discard it.... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what a bad shape the world is in.
I like the idea of "Giftmas" that's pretty good. You should copyright before I do.
It's beginning to look a lot like Giftmas, everywhere you go
re wrap that ugly sweater that you got from Uncle Joe
Put a tag on it that says To You From Me
save the money for a gift for yourself under the tree
Until such time, December is when we celebrate the holiday of Christmas, oh and by the way, Easter has it all wrong too
Nothing wrong with that, an early Merry Christmas to you.
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