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Old 06-18-2008, 10:02 AM
 
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people, I did put an OR in there. If you cant/wont take the pill then your cut off if you have more kids.

Yes I would support research into male oral contraception. I have been a proponent for such a pill since my teenage years.

As for raping your wife, uhhh, she agreed to marry him no? That means she agreed to have sex with him. Just because one person "wants some" when the other doesnt does not = rape. How many of you have given some to your partner even tho you didnt want to. I bet the vast majority of married people out there have. I know I have.
Hmmm....I can't think of a time that I didn't want some- so I guess I'll have to say that I've never done that....lol
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Old 06-18-2008, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Stewartsville, NJ
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people, I did put an OR in there. If you cant/wont take the pill then your cut off if you have more kids.

Yes I would support research into male oral contraception. I have been a proponent for such a pill since my teenage years.

As for raping your wife, uhhh, she agreed to marry him no? That means she agreed to have sex with him. Just because one person "wants some" when the other doesnt does not = rape. How many of you have given some to your partner even tho you didnt want to. I bet the vast majority of married people out there have. I know I have.
Interesting.... so if the wife says no, and the husband goes ahead anyway without her concent, this isn't rape because she agreed to marry him? WOW!!!!!
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Old 06-18-2008, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Some got six month some got one solid. But me and my buddies all got lifetime here
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and the HUSBAND bears no responsibility in this AT ALL. It's all on her. Lovely.
Hey..., it was a woman who stood up looking for government assistance, I needed a target, it was too easy.
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Old 06-18-2008, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Murphy, NC
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Not shock at all!!!!!!!!!!!!


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I think certain businesses or companies of a certain size should raise minimum wage to a survivable amount and keep it raised with inflation. Rather than that education is important and if a kid is smart and dedicated, money shouldn't prevent him from further education.
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Old 06-18-2008, 07:49 PM
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Interesting.... so if the wife says no, and the husband goes ahead anyway without her concent, this isn't rape because she agreed to marry him? WOW!!!!!
I'm with you on this.

Man or woman, if one person says "no", "stop", or a variation of such, as to not grant sexual consent, and is serious about it - it's rape.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:57 AM
 
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I dont even know what to say about this...pretty pathetic. Have to wonder what makes people think up these things.

wbztv.com - Time Magazine Report: Gloucester High School Teens Had Pact To Get Pregnant (http://wbztv.com/local/gloucester.high.school.2.751873.html - broken link)
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:58 AM
 
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I dont even know what to say about this...pretty pathetic. Have to wonder what makes people think up these things.

wbztv.com - Time Magazine Report: Gloucester High School Teens Had Pact To Get Pregnant (http://wbztv.com/local/gloucester.high.school.2.751873.html - broken link)
A little more info...
Pregnancy Boom at Gloucester High - TIME

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Old 06-19-2008, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Some got six month some got one solid. But me and my buddies all got lifetime here
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did you know that in NJ, it's not illegal for a husband to rape his wife? Apparently the law was never changed - at least it wasn't a few years ago when this issue came to my attention from a woman I know who was raped by her husband and all he got was a slap on the rist.
I cannot believe that a marriage document can actually create a legal separation between simple non-consensual sex and rape. And if it were the case then I'm surprised there hasn't been some example that forced the state to amend it. Wow.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:28 PM
 
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That Gloucester High School ordeal is terrible! I get angry when people say that using contraceptives is a sin. If that is a sin, what is premarital sex? If they want to follow their religions, they should do it the whole way.


By the way, the idea that rape can't exist between a married couple is absolutely ridiculous! When a person says no, it's no (no matter if they are a random person at the club, friend, boyfriend, fiance, or spouse).
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Old 06-19-2008, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Child care is absolutely NOT a "basic necessity"

If you are not in a financially secure position you should NOT be having children, period. I understand that people want families and such, but there are plenty of things that I cant afford that I make the grown up decision not to get...children are no different. Personally I find it to be a form of child abuse itself for those who insist on having a kid when they have absolutely no means of supporting it in a fair and reasonable way.

If you have a kid and then get fired or have some drastic financial situation thrust upon you, that is a different story.


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I agree with you 100%. Probably because you are right.

I suspect you will receive some hate mail over your comments but just know you are correct word for word.
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