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Old 04-23-2009, 01:10 PM
 
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De Paul is over $10k now. For sure.
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Of course you are right. The parent’s involvement and attitude have a TON to do with school results.

My point really was with the poster (and those that agreed so vehemently) that said that my kids can get the same education they are getting in NJ elsewhere in the USA while only paying $1k in property taxes. I find this statement silly, inflammatory and impossible to believe but I'm willing to be proved wrong. Add perhaps I'll move there.
It's out there you just have to look. Of course none of these states have the all powerful NJEA so that may help keep costs down hence lower taxes
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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Truth be told though - nation wide - typically the more exclusive/expensive the town, the better the school system.
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Truth be told though - nation wide - typically the more exclusive/expensive the town, the better the school system.
E, that about sums it up
there are districts right here in Jersey I wouldn't want my kids going to
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:19 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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It's out there you just have to look. Of course none of these states have the all powerful NJEA so that may help keep costs down hence lower taxes
njkate - Teachers in the South make spit. New hires in Charlotte start at less than $30K and if they need health insurance for spouse and kids, it costs over $600 a month -it's free for self-only, 80% coverage! I used to complain about NJ teacher salaries and here it is just the reverse.... I feel sorry for them. No Union - NC and VA prohibit binding arbitration with unions. No tenure either!
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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njkate - Teachers in the South make spit. New hires in Charlotte start at less than $30K and if they need health insurance for spouse and kids, it costs over $600 a month -it's free for self-only, 80% coverage! I used to complain about NJ teacher salaries and here it is just the reverse.... I feel sorry for them. No Union - NC and VA prohibit binding arbitration with unions. No tenure either!
But is the salary enough to live on in these places..is it relative?
If not that is horrible
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:33 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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But is the salary enough to live on in these places..is it relative?
If not that is horrible
If you like something just above Section 8 housing! Teachers here are in a revolving door.... about a third are gone after the second year looking for more money! A decent cheap house is around $150K in a "transitional neighborhood", so proportionately, it may be worse than NJ if you're a beginning teacher!
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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It's out there you just have to look. Of course none of these states have the all powerful NJEA so that may help keep costs down hence lower taxes
No, it's not out there. That is the point.
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:38 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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njkate - Teachers in the South make spit. New hires in Charlotte start at less than $30K and if they need health insurance for spouse and kids, it costs over $600 a month -it's free for self-only, 80% coverage! I used to complain about NJ teacher salaries and here it is just the reverse.... I feel sorry for them. No Union - NC and VA prohibit binding arbitration with unions. No tenure either!
Carlsbad NM teachers start off at 60k a year, one of the highest in the state. And I haven't run the numbers, but I am quite sure the test scores in that community aren't going to exceed Sparta, Denville, or Carlstadt. If the corollary is better teacher pay = higher achievement, I am not so sure I agree with it. The average Newark kindergarten teacher with 5 years experience plus masters degree, according to Paul Mulshine in the NJ Star Ledger, is 89k a year. Again, I don't know what the test scores are for high schools in Newark, but they mostly likely aren't going to exceed any of the aforementioned suburban NJ towns.
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Old 04-23-2009, 01:44 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Carlsbad NM teachers start off at 60k a year, one of the highest in the state. And I haven't run the numbers, but I am quite sure the test scores in that community aren't going to exceed Sparta, Denville, or Carlstadt. If the corollary is better teacher pay = higher achievement, I am not so sure I agree with it. The average Newark kindergarten teacher with 5 years experience plus masters degree, according to Paul Mulshine in the NJ Star Ledger, is 89k a year. Again, I don't know what the test scores are for high schools in Newark, but they mostly likely aren't going to exceed any of the aforementioned suburban NJ towns.
mike0421 - An teacher in Charlotte with 10 years experience and a master's makes about $50K.
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