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Old 05-09-2011, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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This is old news, nyc is one of the most segregated cities in america. Whats so funny is when nyc went against segregation of the south with its jim crow madness, nyc was keeping segregation alive up north. Talk about double standards.
Actually, we really are not segregated at all compared to Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, or Philadelphia. The fact that we are so large and have majority black populations in neighborhoods and majority white populations in neighborhoods is no different than any other city in America, except for the fact that NYC is the largest city in America, so the statistics come out as NYC being the most segregated because "this many black ppl live here" and "this many white ppl live here".

We are much more discrete about segregation here, and we like to announce our infinite levels of diversity. But are we all really diverse? Can the white business man from Brooklyn Heights standing on line at the Court st. United Artists theatre in Downtown Brooklyn relate with the black man from the Gowanus or Red Hook projects standing on line? No, but we all manage to get along while we wait in line, for the most part. That is not integrated diversity at all in my opinion. In fact, it just creates a greater dichotomy between the two, and the contrasts are substantial. The same can be said about gentrification and its affect on residents in the city. It does not integrate anything, it increases polarization.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Actually, we really are not segregated at all compared to Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, or Philadelphia. The fact that we are so large and have majority black populations in neighborhoods and majority white populations in neighborhoods is no different than any other city in America, except for the fact that NYC is the largest city in America, so the statistics come out as NYC being the most segregated because "this many black ppl live here" and "this many white ppl live here".

We are much more discrete about segregation here, and we like to announce our infinite levels of diversity. But are we all really diverse? Can the white business man from Brooklyn Heights standing on line at the Court st. United Artists theatre in Downtown Brooklyn relate with the black man from the Gowanus or Red Hook projects standing on line? No, but we all manage to get along while we wait in line, for the most part. That is not integrated diversity at all in my opinion. In fact, it just creates a greater dichotomy between the two, and the contrasts are substantial. The same can be said about gentrification and its affect on residents in the city. It does not integrate anything, it increases polarization.
Its true, polarization of the two is the worse and both live seperate worlds. I wonder if gentrification will ever back fire on the city and realestate market?
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Old 05-10-2011, 08:21 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Its true, polarization of the two is the worse and both live seperate worlds. I wonder if gentrification will ever back fire on the city and realestate market?
I think it will. Given the economic situation, I think the demand for luxury real estate will eventually return to more moderate levels. Much of what was constructed over the past few years will continue to drop in price or will eventually be rented out. Maybe the middle class will have a chance to get in on some "fire sale" prices.
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Old 05-10-2011, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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Can we use this as a reason why gentrification is bad... because it pushed people like this,

6-course mobile gourmet meal served aboard NYC subway car | Gadling.com

to move in and populate these working class areas... people who probably haven't had a hard day's work in their lives and who live off of their parents money... I feel bad for the people having to come or go to work that day and seeing this private event take up space in the already packed L train... Btw, notice the demographics in the video... very diverse...
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:23 PM
 
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Funny thing happened yesterday. I recently came back from school, so now I'm in NY. Me and my pops decide to hit up a BBQ spot in Williamsburg. As we're getting there, he says "Looks like we're getting some Puerto Rican BBQ". The part of Williamsburg where we were at was a predominantly PR hood for ages until fairly recently. My response "I thought they all got priced out.".

We continue driving, and he's looking around. Eventually he said "Wow...guess you were right. All white people".

The BBQ was very good by the way...if not overpriced.
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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Wait... don't tell me Southside has changed... Please tell me you're either talking about Graham or another part of East Williamsburg...
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:37 PM
 
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Wait... don't tell me Southside has changed... Please tell me you're either talking about Graham or another part of East Williamsburg...
Metropolitan Ave. bruh. Right by the BQE. Yup. I wouldn't be surprised if southside was the same way.
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Ridgewood, NY
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Isn't metropolitan ave. in Brooklyn by southside... right before it hits grand and then heads towards the projects by S1st, S2nd, Roebling and all that... Because Grand by the L train I know has changed a little bit but a little deeper I thought was still majority hispanic PR and DR central...
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Crown Heights
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This article kind of caught me by suprise. It says that parking minimums are a large contributor to the rising cost of housing construction here in the city. Check it out, let me know what you guys think... Streetsblog New York City » Developer: I’ve Walked Away From Projects Because of Parking Minimums
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:08 AM
 
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Isn't metropolitan ave. in Brooklyn by southside... right before it hits grand and then heads towards the projects by S1st, S2nd, Roebling and all that... Because Grand by the L train I know has changed a little bit but a little deeper I thought was still majority hispanic PR and DR central...
The projects are still majority hispanic, but everywhere else has changed. You'll still see them peppered in with the white folk though.
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