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Okay, we can argue about real estate all day. Let's talk about your LIFE, when you are in a critical situation that demands first priority. 58 minutes to get any response in Detroit when you call 911. It's so bad people call private contractors before the cops. My old neighbor on Dresden (same street Eminem grew up on) recently had to wait over 4 1/2 hours for the police after someone robbed her home bare for the fifth time in two years. She installed security cameras but admits they are of little use. She is now considering guard dogs, even though she doesn't have the financial means to properly care for them. It is simply because it has become a matter of survival, and I have days where it breaks me down. She would leave if she could but is elderly and disabled. Her best hope is to move to an inner-ring suburb, but she doesn't have the money. She says she worries about being raped, she sleeps with a gun next to her and told me all single women should have guns. I feel terrible and wonder how this is possible in my own country.
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Okay, we can argue about real estate all day. Let's talk about your LIFE, when you are in a critical situation that demands first priority. 58 minutes to get any response in Detroit when you call 911. It's so bad people call private contractors before the cops. My old neighbor on Dresden (same street Eminem grew up on) recently had to wait over 4 1/2 hours for the police after someone robbed her home bare for the fifth time in two years. She installed security cameras but admits they are of little use. She is now considering guard dogs, even though she doesn't have the financial means to properly care for them. It is simply because it has become a matter of survival, and I have days where it breaks me down. She would leave if she could but is elderly and disabled. Her best hope is to move to an outer-ring suburb, but she doesn't have the money. She says she worries about being raped. I feel terrible and wonder how this is possible in my own country.
Yeah, too see a once powerful city go down the tubes is terrible. To spend 100 million over what you take in is insane! Can you imagine spending 2 grand over your household budget every month? The riots of the 60's started the downward spiral of that city. They have lost 50% of their population from their once peak. BTW I saw this once famous bar their that had a bowling game knocking over feathers.
No one is saying their government didn't spend beyond its means. That's obvious. What I'm trying to say is there is human fallout and people living in conditions that should not be considered acceptable in an industrialized nation. No one cares because they are black. I am white btw. And am firmly convicted in my belief, and that we live in a horrible world where we must now fend for ourselves. When we have people like those on Wall Street to look up to as role models, is this any real surprise to anyone? We have created a culture of '*********, I've got mine' and total apathy. I am not living in the same America I was raised in.
No one is saying their government didn't spend beyond its means. That's obvious. What I'm trying to say is there is human fallout and people living in conditions that should not be considered acceptable in an industrialized nation. No one cares because they are black. I am white btw. And am firmly convicted in my belief, and that we live in a horrible world where we must now fend for ourselves. When we have people like those on Wall Street to look up to as role models, is this any real surprise to anyone? We have created a culture of '*********, I've got mine' and total apathy. I am not living in the same America I was raised in.
Do I have empathy for a alcoholic or drug abuser? Yes. But sometimes you can't help people who don't understand self destructive behavior. I feel bad for a cop/ fireman/ teacher who worked their and now might not get their pension. How the hell is wall street responsible for Detroit? BTW NY'ers need Wall street. Look at Detroit being so heavily invested and one dimensional in.......Auto industry. BTW 2 outta of the big three had to be bailed out. Has a capitalist I agree we always have to fend for ourselves. BTW since when is everyone entitled to a cell phone?
Number one, most of the housing units in Elmhurst are APARTMENTS, not SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
Number 2, many of the single family homes in Elmhurst are rented out to multiple immigrants.
I still have family and friends in the area, and I'm still regularly in the area. Go down Broadway in the center of Elmhurst and you will see ALL apartments (rent stabilized). Ugly apartments at all. Full of WORKING CLASS people. No single family homes. Some of the side streets have single family homes.
And many of them are rented out to immigrants.
Stop trying to LIE and say Elmhurst is a well off neighborhood, or that most of its units are single family homes. Completely not true.
First statement is false. Second statement has no proof to back it up.
Last statement has no bearing in the discussion. You noted Queens as not having been gentrified. Just look at the map and the long affluent areas of northern and central Queens BLOW AWAY the poorer areas combined in terms of square miles, even if you fabricate Elmhurst as a poor neighborhood.
The math is so simple that it's stupid to argue otherwise. Just add up the square mileage of Bayside, Auburndale, North Flushing, Douglaston, Little Neck, Forest Hills, Kew Gardens, Kew Garden Hills, Hillcrest, Rego Park, Fresh Meadows, Astoria and LIC.
Then add the square milage of Jackson Heights, Corona, and all of Elmhurst if you wish.
Which is greater?
Can you comprehend it now? Or maybe there is something about the truth that bothers you.
How is Wall Street responsible? If it weren't for the totally destructive, unregulated winner-takes-all atmosphere that led to our crash back in 2008 the Big 3 wouldn't have needed help. The reason why they got in such trouble was because no one could finance a car through the BANKS, who were so grossly deregulated that criminal activity went unchecked.. It was about a lack of access to CREDIT and FINANCING, you know... the things businesses traditionally rely upon as well as car buyers. Thank you for making me aware two of the three automakers almost went bust. Like it was some sort of news/realization to someone who has half their family in the auto industry and originates from there. Who are you, what the hell do you know?? What the hell does drug abuse or alcoholism have to do with an elderly woman who played it straight her whole life? Wow, you sound like you are completely naive. Also racist. The cell phone thing was irrelevant. You completely missed the point. Go back to your bubble and watch some Faux News. You know nothing, ignore the facts, and then spew a bunch of idiotic nonsense. I guess that makes you a typical American.
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What is with all these threads comparing saying that every other city in the US is going to be the next Detroit?! Nothing can be the next Detroit, we learned from that years ago. NYC has a higher GDP than most states with world class finance, marketing, fashion, arts, and medical care industry..can't say the same about Detroit. Plus Detroit has the worst weather in the US with gray, overcast, dismal, depressing, frigid winters. NYC winters are sunnier and have milder temperatures.
Is NYC perfect with no social and economic problems? No, but every city in this world has some kind of social and economic problems. It's completely asinine to say that NYC will be the next Detroit because of the reasons I listed.
How is Wall Street responsible? If it weren't for the totally destructive, unregulated winner-takes-all atmosphere that led to our crash back in 2008 the Big 3 wouldn't have needed help. The reason why they got in such trouble was because no one could finance a car through the BANKS, who were so grossly deregulated that criminal activity went unchecked.. It was about a lack of access to CREDIT and FINANCING, you know... the things businesses traditionally rely upon as well as car buyers. Thank you for making me aware two of the three automakers almost went bust. Like it was some sort of news/realization to someone who has half their family in the auto industry and originates from there. Who are you, what the hell do you know?? What the hell does drug abuse or alcoholism have to do with an elderly woman who played it straight her whole life? Wow, you sound like you are completely naive. Also racist. The cell phone thing was irrelevant. You completely missed the point. Go back to your bubble and watch some Faux News. You know nothing, ignore the facts, and then spew a bunch of idiotic nonsense. I guess that makes you a typical American.
, Wow! Let's see it's Wall Streets fault that no one buys 2/3 cars produced in Deadtroit? Make a better product and people will buy it. Get off knees in front of Rachel maddow or Chris Matthews and get a clue. Detroit has no one to blame but THEMSELVES. They spend 100 MILLION more than they take in and now demand the federal government to bail them out? The cell phone thing is totally relevant. It's the ideology of this current country and YOU. I can't afford a cell phone so the govt. should give me a free one? WTF already go use a pay phone or a landline. http://jonathanturley.org/2012/12/06...uo-from-obama/
BANKS, who were so grossly deregulated that criminal activity went unchecked..
I wont' get into regulation/dereg, but I would like to know from you why haven't Prez and Eric Holder put these banksters in jail? What the hell did I pitch my tent for? Pls try to explain it without fire-breathing hurling insults, and trying to chew my head off. I think you made Norwood check in to a trauma center.
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What is with all these threads comparing saying that every other city in the US is going to be the next Detroit?! Nothing can be the next Detroit, we learned from that years ago. NYC has a higher GDP than most states with world class finance, marketing, fashion, arts, and medical care industry..can't say the same about Detroit. Plus Detroit has the worst weather in the US with gray, overcast, dismal, depressing, frigid winters. NYC winters are sunnier and have milder temperatures.
Is NYC perfect with no social and economic problems? No, but every city in this world has some kind of social and economic problems. It's completely asinine to say that NYC will be the next Detroit because of the reasons I listed.
I think you need to look at the numbers, plus read some history, and realize that no one is exempt from the laws of math, NYC included. Maybe then you'll understand the true meaning of "asinine."
How is Wall Street responsible? If it weren't for the totally destructive, unregulated winner-takes-all atmosphere that led to our crash back in 2008 the Big 3 wouldn't have needed help. The reason why they got in such trouble was because no one could finance a car through the BANKS, who were so grossly deregulated that criminal activity went unchecked.. It was about a lack of access to CREDIT and FINANCING, you know... the things businesses traditionally rely upon as well as car buyers.
Had more to do with their cars sucking and looking ugly. Simple as that. I had no problem financing my non-American car with no money down during the middle of a recession. I wouldn't blame the bank if they rejected my application to finance a gas guzzling tahoe or suburban, I'd thank them afterwards.
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The cell phone thing is totally relevant. It's the ideology of this current country and YOU. I can't afford a cell phone so the govt. should give me a free one? WTF already go use a pay phone or a landline. 
