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The average "reported" income. Many Orthodox Jews deal in cash business where they can hide income.
Why do you assume that Borough Park poverty isn't real, but poverty in, say, Brownsville is "more real"??
Don't you think there are New Yorkers gaming the system in every neighborhood?
Obamacare is more affordable than insurance that existed for purchase before.
It needs improvement and needs to be more affordable. But it's better than nothing.
And nothing was what existed before.
(Meanwhile the poor have always been able to access health insurance through Medicaid.)
Your assumption is based off empirical evidence that does not exist yet. It is supposed to be a risk transferring mechanism. Do you know who is bearing all the risk? Certainly not insurance companies, nor politicians. Affordable will turn into a cheap product. Unless the middle class can pony up, which they won't be able to. Instead they'll drop a notch in the hierarchy and widen the gap further.
Your assumption is based off empirical evidence that does not exist yet. It is supposed to be a risk transferring mechanism. Do you know who is bearing all the risk? Certainly not insurance companies, nor politicians. Affordable will turn into a cheap product. Unless the middle class can pony up, which they won't be able to. Instead they'll drop a notch in the hierarchy and widen the gap further.
Unless a middle class person get health insurance through their employer or a spouse's employer, there was never even a remotely affordable way to buy health insurance (say, for a freelance worker).
I remember when health insurance used to cost $1500/month.
Now with Obamacare, you can buy health insurance (as a non-subsidized middle class person) for $400/month.
Is it great? Is it cheap? No.
But it's better than $1500/month which is unaffordable for a middle class person.
(This is not to mention that for a lower middle class, working poor, or working class person, often subsidies are available to make Obamacare more affordable than $400/month.)
Why do you assume that Borough Park poverty isn't real, but poverty in, say, Brownsville is "more real"??
Don't you think there are New Yorkers gaming the system in every neighborhood?
Take a look at Borough Park then take a look at Brownsville. Despite "poverty" statistics, one is a crime ridden slum and the other isn't. The difference is, it would be a bit far fetched for someone in Brownsville to be making 6-7 figures a year while remaining there just to "game the system". In Borough park there are women who aren't legally married that are eligible for govt benefits all the while they live in luxurious homes in a nice neighborhood while their husbands own businesses and real estate and make lots of money!
Again, I've live amongst jews as a kid and have done business with them for many years when I resided in NYC. I know how they operate.
Unless a middle class person get health insurance through their employer or a spouse's employer, there was never even a remotely affordable way to buy health insurance (say, for a freelance worker).
I remember when health insurance used to cost $1500/month.
Now with Obamacare, you can buy health insurance (as a non-subsidized middle class person) for $400/month.
Is it great? Is it cheap? No.
But it's better than $1500/month which is unaffordable for a middle class person.
(This is not to mention that for a lower middle class, working poor, or working class person, often subsidies are available to make Obamacare more affordable than $400/month.)
I'll ask again. Where is the ACA parking the risk? We know the insurance companies no longer exist to cushion the blow that comes with insolvency. They've simply become clearinghouses for the government. Nor are politicians. Someone's going to have to ration. It'll be the end service providers and users, but they are not in the business of reserving capital for a rainy day, nor do they have the capacity. They'll be wiped out. By the time politicians are done with the pillaging of the industry you'll feel like your going to the DMV instead of a doctors office. They will drain it dry. And forget about even seeing doctors. PAs are all that you'll see.
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Obamacare is more affordable than insurance that existed for purchase before.
It needs improvement and needs to be more affordable. But it's better than nothing.
And nothing was what existed before.
(Meanwhile the poor have always been able to access health insurance through Medicaid.)
They should just have single payer healthcare. In other words, medicare/medicaid for all.
Unless a middle class person get health insurance through their employer or a spouse's employer, there was never even a remotely affordable way to buy health insurance (say, for a freelance worker).
I remember when health insurance used to cost $1500/month.
Now with Obamacare, you can buy health insurance (as a non-subsidized middle class person) for $400/month.
Is it great? Is it cheap? No.
But it's better than $1500/month which is unaffordable for a middle class person.
(This is not to mention that for a lower middle class, working poor, or working class person, often subsidies are available to make Obamacare more affordable than $400/month.)
Agreed. I supported Bernie who wanted medicare for all. Still Obamacare is better than what we had before.
How do Republicans help the middle class? They only help the wealthy.
Leftist nonsense.
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