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Old 06-15-2018, 08:49 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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No comment on the others, but that's a high bar for urban if Dyker Heights and Bensonhurst are suburban given how many multi-unit dwellings and row houses are in each (though some of the rowhouses are just twins).

I can see it for Dyker Heights if you're just talking about the southernmost part near the golf course; that's also a good distance away from subway stations, so that might fit the topic as a subsection of a neighborhood.
Not just the southern portion. The heart of Dyker Heights is very suburban and expensive and they don't hace row houses next to each other either. They are LARGE houses on nice sized plots of land. Dyker Heights is a planned community so there aren't that many parts of it with the set up you described.

Have a look at 82nd street off of 13th Avenue. Beautiful LARGE expensive homes. Very suburban feel. One of the best neighborhoods in Brooklyn besides Bay Ridge and Brooklyn Heights.

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Old 06-15-2018, 08:53 AM
 
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Not just the southern portion. The heart of Dyker Heights is very suburban and expensive and they don't how row houses next to each other either. They are LARGE houses on nice sized plots of land. Dyker Heights is a planned community so there aren't that many parts of it with the set up you described.

Have a look at 82nd street off of 13th Avenue. Beautiful LARGE expensive homes. Very suburban feel.
82nd street wouldn’t be considered a southern part of Dyker Heights? What boundaries for Dyker Heights are we all using here? I think anything in the 80s is pretty southerly since there aren’t many blocks before you hit the golf course.
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Old 06-15-2018, 08:58 AM
 
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82nd street wouldn’t be considered a southern part of Dyker Heights? What boundaries for Dyker Heights are we all using here? I think anything in the 80s is pretty southerly since there aren’t many blocks before you hit the golf course.
You can look at Bay Ridge Parkway which would be in the 70s, which isn't that close to the golf course. Similar layout... Dyker Heights only starts in the 60s if that.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:12 AM
 
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You can look at Bay Ridge Parkway which would be in the 70s, which isn't that close to the golf course. Similar layout... Dyker Heights only starts in the 60s if that.
I’m looking at the streetview of Bay Ridge Parkway and it looks like most of the housing on that street in Dyker Heights are attached housing either the twins semi-attached or rowhouses.

Dyker Heights in several parts of blocks not in the 80s will have splotches of detached single family homes, but they are overall a pretty small proportion, as in not a plurality and of course not a majority of the housing by any stretch. Certainly there’s a messy gradient of this that runs south along the street numbers and somewhere in the 80s, the detached single family home does become a more prominent part of the mix. It’s actually this part of the neighborhood I’m more familiar with because of the golf course and an elderly mother of a friend having lived there and who was not at all happy with what people were doing to the nice old houses in the area.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:15 AM
 
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I’m looking at the streetview of Bay Ridge Parkway and it looks like most of the housing on that street in Dyker Heights are attached housing either the twins semi-attached or rowhouses.

Dyker Heights in several parts of blocks not in the 80s will have splotches of detached single family homes, but they are overall a pretty small proportion, as in not a plurality and of course not a majority of the housing by any stretch. Certainly there’s a messy gradient of this that runs south along the street numbers and somewhere in the 80s, the detached single family home does become a more prominent part of the mix.
Right.... Bay Ridge Parkway runs almost seamlessly into Bay Ridge, where you'll find houses that look like brownstones, which is rather unusual for South Brooklyn, but it still a quiet suburban feel. I think the green areas of the neighborhood certainly helps.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:40 AM
 
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Georgetown is a huge pain when it comes to any public transportation. Mill Basin is worse but I wouldn't call that area very urban.
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:35 PM
 
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^ Dyker Heights, yes, I'd call it largely suburban.

Bensonhurst though...definitely very urban. I lived there for over a decade. Yes, there are lots of quite streets with 2-4 family homes only (particularly closer to the dyker heights border) but Bay Parkway, 18th ave, 86th st and to a lesser extent 20th ave and New Utrecht are all commercial and very busy thoroughfares. There is also a good amount of large apartment buildings peppered in throughout.
The presence of 2-4 family houses make an area not suburban in my opinion, especially if they're attached


I even think that those blocks of skinny 1 family houses detached by a driveway or less (like the ones found in parts of Queens) are not truly suburban
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:38 PM
 
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A lot of you need to go back to urban planning 101

Suburbs does not automatically equal just houses

Not does urban equal just buildings.

That how much living here has warped you guys brains.
What is your definition? I'm going off whether the neighborhood was developed with the reliance of a personable automobile.
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:39 PM
 
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A lot of you need to go back to urban planning 101

Suburbs does not automatically equal just houses

Not does urban equal just buildings.

That how much living here has warped you guys brains.
Even though I disagreed with you before, I agree here.

Some people here seem to think that anything less structurally dense than Manhattan is the suburbs.
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Old 06-15-2018, 12:49 PM
 
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What is your definition? I'm going off whether the neighborhood was developed with the reliance of a personable automobile.
As long as you live in a city, consider yourself urban

If you live in a town, village, or hamlet, you are suburban

Below that you're rural

I go for more of the legal definition and not aesthetics

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