60% of All Black People in New York Metro Area Are Black Immigrants

[caribny]

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

Those jobs though still have lots of vacation, it's very hard to fire someone, and they have pensions which are extremely rare in the US these days. t.

The biggest challenge that state and local gov'ts have is to fund the retiree benefits of these people. This is why job growth is minimal and so the civil service will not be the path into the middle class that it was for earlier generations of blacks.

When the next recession hits even liberal states like NY will be forced to drastically scale back.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by caribny

The biggest challenge that state and local gov'ts have is to fund the retiree benefits of these people. This is why job growth is minimal and so the civil service will not be the path into the middle class that it was for earlier generations of blacks.

When the next recession hits even liberal states like NY will be forced to drastically scale back.

And private sector jobs don't scale back even more. Not to mention for people with high school degrees, and very often bachelor degrees private sector jobs often have no retirement benefits, and possibly no benefits.

McDonalds is private sector. The restaurant or the bar is private sector. Janitorial services are private sector.

Obviously top private sector jobs pay substantially more than top public sector jobs. There is no questioning that. There's no question there's little to no promotion in many public sector jobs.

Of course automation has gotten rid of many public sector jobs. Need to change your address on your driver's license? Order it online. Need to renew your driver's license? Order it online, the eye doctor will even digitally submit your exam results. Metrocard vending machines 20 years ago made token booth clerks obsolete, and now the wireless contact cards and the MTA smartphone apps will further back most token booth clerks obsolete.

Need to apply for unemployment? All the unemployment offices were closed, that's done on online. One applies for Food Stamps and other problems like Disability online as well.

Need to pay taxes? You can file and pay online.

I think digitization has wiped out more clerical public sector service jobs than recessions.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by caribny

35% of Caribbean women work in the healthcare field. 25% of Jamaican men are in construction.


What no one is discussing is the fact that the disappearance of many back office admin jobs in the financial industry has badly hurt the black middle class. Many of these jobs were outsourced to India, shifted to cheaper parts of the US, or automated.

Or if they are still in NYC they got outsourced to temp agencies. Making the employment there too unstable for someone to depend on.

Yes one can find many Caribbean (not just Anglo Caribbean, ditto Dominican and Puerto Rican) women working in hospitals as billing, and other admin functions and as nurses.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by caribny

Yes because you will go whining to the moderator when I respond to your Trump like attitudes towards blacks.

No because you like to argue this Black ethnicity versus that Black ethnicity, and the moderators have gotten tired of racial/ethnic topics and you carry them to far at times.

If someone does say something bigoted against West Indians, try reporting them to the moderators. Please stop having arguments about this black versus that Black, because every time you do the thread goes off topic and shuts down.

[Airborneguy]

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

No because you like to argue this Black ethnicity versus that Black ethnicity, and the moderators have gotten tired of racial/ethnic topics and you carry them to far at times.

If someone does say something bigoted against West Indians, try reporting them to the moderators. Please stop having arguments about this black versus that Black, because every time you do the thread goes off topic and shuts down.

Great post. Perfect to end this on.