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Old 11-18-2019, 02:16 PM
 
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As suspected, the SJW agenda is behind all this outrage. They've got a plan to take down every GD thing because it is an "outrage" against minorities.

Never mind these people were caught breaking laws, but it's the same old nonsense about the hungry stealing food.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/18/n...eo-subway.html
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:29 PM
 
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Blah, blah, blah...

All this extra noise doesn't change things. Currently it is illegal to sell anything underground (subways) outside of those licensed news stands.

As with everything else city and its liberal/democrat governments caused this problem, and or turn a blind eye to real causes (their own laws and or enforcement there of), then the whole woke soy boy crowd makes it a civil rights issue.

Take away the licenses from those not actively using, but renting it out for $$$$. That should free up some for others.

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...aem-story.html


As for the rest the streets of NYC are already crowded with side walk vendors, many in direct competition with local merchants.

In case you've not noticed many supermarkets/grocery stores have cut back on fresh produce. They are losing customers to vendors parked right outside on street, and fresh fruit is perishable. No sense stocking inventory that will just have to be thrown out unsold in a few days. Yeah those dumpster divers love it, but that isn't why places are in business.

In any event this is what happens when laws/rules aren't enforced. People start taking advantage claiming they have some sort of god given right.

Finally please stop going on about how plenty of people sold things on street back in day. This ain't NYC of early 1900's or 1800's. Laws were put in place to restrict street vendors (especially of food/drinks) for a reason.
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Old 11-18-2019, 02:56 PM
 
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I am so so sick of this SJW nonsense. Let the cops enforce the laws. Clean up the city. This place is devolving quickly into a city of lawlessness. It's odd to me that so many people want to protect those who are the ones breaking the laws.

CLEAN UP NYC. Let the NYPD do their jobs.
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Old 11-18-2019, 03:12 PM
 
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I am so so sick of this SJW nonsense. Let the cops enforce the laws. Clean up the city. This place is devolving quickly into a city of lawlessness. It's odd to me that so many people want to protect those who are the ones breaking the laws.

CLEAN UP NYC. Let the NYPD do their jobs.
Cops cannot clean up the city. You are aware arrested people are let out of prison in a few years time or less and put back where they were before?

Policing has never cleaned up NYC, and it never will.

The subway has always had panhandlers and people swimming stuff. Always will be one the city can or afford to have police in every car of every train or in all stations at all times.

And I notice you fail to address the utter failure and inability of the police to clean up drug use and sales, especially to the well known.
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Old 11-18-2019, 04:00 PM
 
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She was targeted because she was committing a crime, the only reason cops target anyone. Every other reason is made up nonsense to play apologist for deviant behavior.
Yes, she was committing a crime. But on the weight of the crime... there are more serious crimes to put ones resources to. She was targeted because it was an easy collar to put in ones quota of arrests.
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Old 11-18-2019, 04:03 PM
 
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Or for rich people it's simpler. Poor minorities in areas the city wants to keep clean get stopped and frisked and many do indeed do time.

Well off Ivy League and NYU students and alumnae, on the other hand, are not bothered when they do drugs or never stopped.

In the rare occasions that they are stopped, a lawyer will get them a ACD and so it's no record of conviction.

Shall we say in the past I did enough drugs with well off people in the coolest places in Manhattan, and we never had any troubles.

So when it comes to getting high, rich people do as as much as poor people, but they are not going to have police troubles for it.

In fact, cops would be afraid to do improper search and seizure against people who have the ability to fight in court and against people who the DA will not even attempt to prosecute.
Cops are afraid of touching minorities. Period. Pensions are not at risk when dealing with white people of any social strata. Anyone who says otherwise knows nothing about the current state of policing.

As to your first point: did you do these drugs on the street like most lower-class people do, making them easy pickings for the police or did you do it inside of people’s apartments and homes coming from discrete drug dealers who don’t deal on the corners? Because the latter, as we all know (you too, but won’t admit it), affords much different Constitutional protections for those who partake.
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Old 11-18-2019, 04:04 PM
 
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I think the undercurrent of this incident is another manifestation of the frustration that extremely wealthy individuals and corporations get away with doing extreme damage to the country's finances, environment and workers yet a person selling something as minor as illegal churros gets cuffed.**

To a conservate leaning person, the reaction to this particular event seems irrational--the vendor indeed broke the law.* To a liberal leaning person, the reaction is more of an emotional one--but still a justified reaction when examined in the larger picture.*

The conservative leaning person's reaction is also justified.* We can't have anyone selling unregulated food in public places.*

So, how do we get misbehaving wealthy people and organizations held to account while only arresting people for very minor crimes?**

That makes for a very unfun and non-polarized conversation I think.*
Does it? There is a simple question. When someone breaks the law, what impact does it have on others. The larger the impact on others, the more serious it is, regardless of wealth.
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Old 11-18-2019, 04:07 PM
 
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Yes, she was committing a crime. But on the weight of the crime... there are more serious crimes to put ones resources to. She was targeted because it was an easy collar to put in ones quota of arrests.
Quotas have been gone for about 5 years now. Believe me, it pains me to admit that because I trust the job far less than you do but truth is truth.
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Old 11-18-2019, 05:30 PM
 
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As suspected, the SJW agenda is behind all this outrage. They've got a plan to take down every GD thing because it is an "outrage" against minorities.

Never mind these people were caught breaking laws, but it's the same old nonsense about the hungry stealing food.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/18/n...eo-subway.html
The "grassroots" group mentioned in that link is just plain trouble that is looking to create bigger trouble while acting like they are heroes. They are extremists and hiding behind the term grassroots, and they are just lurking and waiting to sue.
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Old 11-18-2019, 05:41 PM
 
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Yes, she was committing a crime. But on the weight of the crime... there are more serious crimes to put ones resources to. She was targeted because it was an easy collar to put in ones quota of arrests.
First and foremost this woman isn't supposed to be even in this country, much less selling suspect food in subway.

Next she wasn't "targeted"; but asked (or rather told) several times previously to pack up and move along. Someone from MTA (station manager?) dropped a quarter on this woman that day, and they responded.

Finding someone committing same crime *AGAIN* after having been told several times (and received a few summons) not to do meant she shot her wad far as the NYPD was concerned. How many GD times does someone have to be told *NOT* to do something?

All LE does this to some extent. From street walkers to whatever; they're told to move along and not to be caught back there again. If they do return, then sooner or later are going to get what's coming to them.

Spare me the crocodile tears and SJW/soy boy butt hurt. This woman had ample warning what was going to happen if she continued, but for reasons of her own ignored those warnings. Nor did she bother answering summons that were issued.

The usual suspects are directly responsible for this woman's attitude. Again she is an illegal, then she doubles down on that bet by setting up an illicit business. On both counts SJW and soy boys are woke and outraged when *gasp* those in authority enforce laws. This woman is lucky it isn't Rudy G's or even Bloomberg's day; otherwise her happy behind would have been turned over to ICE and she could continue her street vendor career back in Ecuador.
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