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Old 06-27-2021, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York, United States
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Then you need to open your eyes and walk neighborhoods.
They are all over the city.
LOL.
There isn't a single shelter with a big "SHELTER" sign on it anywhere in the city! But they are all over, ask your local first responders if you don't know where they are.
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Old 06-27-2021, 01:38 PM
 
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LOL.
There isn't a single shelter with a big "SHELTER" sign on it anywhere in the city! But they are all over, ask your local first responders if you don't know where they are.
Exactly. That's why I suggested the poster walk around. You will know when you walk by a shelter. I actually lived next to a shelter in midtown. I lived in a nice co-op building. Tenants on the high end paid around 2 million. Yes literally right next door was a homeless shelter. I guessed it was some kind of program building when I walked by before I lived there. The building staff confirmed it was a homeless shelter.
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Old 06-27-2021, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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How is this different then any other homeless shelter going up in any other boro. It's like people on Staten Island think they are special.

Staten Island is a borough of homeowners (69.2% of SI households are homeowners), who have a lot to lose if a shelter goes up nearby. The shelter in the Lucerne Hotel on the UWS met the same kind of reaction because many of the nearby residents are higher income condo owners. Same for a shelter in Queens a few years ago. The NYC tax base is being targeted by these shelters in all five boroughs.
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Old 06-27-2021, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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All NYC's homeless should be rounded up and put into a newly constructed shelter on Randall's Island. They can be tasered into submission and thrown into buses. Upon arrival they would be given a shower, access to shaving tools, and hot meals. Then they could sleep in efficiency style dorm rooms.

The violent or clinically insane ones would be separated from the rest and put into asylums.

The junkies would be put on a program of cold turkey. Immediate shut off of all drugs. If they die from withdrawal symptoms too bad so sad. The survivors who want to leave then have to complete a skills class where they learn things like how to cook for themselves, manage a simple budget, and walk down the street without screaming nonsense at pedestrians. Armed guards w/tranquilizer rifles/stun guns and flying drones with cameras would surround the compound to prevent unauthorized exit.
I will say that I got a good laugh from this post
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Old 06-28-2021, 10:16 AM
 
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You may think that I am joking but these solutions to solving homelessness have been tried successfully in many governments around the world. People will immediately jump to cite the former Soviet Union, the Eastern bloc, Cuba, Vietnam, and China. But did you also know that other governments around the world have also successfully ended the scourge of homelessness and drug addictions?

Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Chile, Libya, Syria, Iraq, and present day Rwanda have or had at some points in their history solved this issue. The common theme running across all these countries is an authoritarian government that is not afraid to take charge and enforce the norms of society.

The streets were clean, children attended schools in uniform, no junkies or bums sleeping on the streets or bothering people. Law and order were respected. Buses and trains ran on time.
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Old 06-28-2021, 10:21 AM
 
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Where are the best places for homeless shelter in nyc given that there should be more shelters available for this population. Is there any neighborhood that you feel has not been given their fair share and should take more?
Everyone is nimby, but given that they must exist, why should your neighborhood be avoided over others?
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Old 06-28-2021, 10:30 AM
 
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Exactly. That's why I suggested the poster walk around. You will know when you walk by a shelter. I actually lived next to a shelter in midtown. I lived in a nice co-op building. Tenants on the high end paid around 2 million. Yes literally right next door was a homeless shelter. I guessed it was some kind of program building when I walked by before I lived there. The building staff confirmed it was a homeless shelter.
I lived in a coop building where the apartments went for the many many millions/10s of millions -far more than any real estate in Staten Island. Right across the street was a Greek orthodox church that held a food pantry, feeding and many services for homeless. I used to volunteer with my young children. Yeah, it sucks that people are homeless but instead of complaining, maybe attack the problem in any way you personally can.
Streets were clean, children are safe because we in the neighborhood clean up and take care.
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Old 06-28-2021, 10:31 AM
 
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Where are the best places for homeless shelter in nyc given that there should be more shelters available for this population. Is there any neighborhood that you feel has not been given their fair share and should take more?
Everyone is nimby, but given that they must exist, why should your neighborhood be avoided over others?
I already suggested a best location - Randall's Island. It is in the middle of the river and isolated geographically. A camp could be built quickly with FEMA funds. Checkpoints to prevent bums from leaving prematurely can be easily setup.
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Old 06-28-2021, 10:34 AM
 
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Homeless children would go to orphanages. The same way they do now. Their parents have clearly failed to provide the basic necessities of life for them. The children can visit their parents on weekends and holidays.
So separate the children from the homeless parents? That is your solution? Not legal or ethical or practical.
Where should these orphanages be built? Who should work in them? Where should these children go to school?
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Old 06-28-2021, 10:36 AM
 
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I already suggested a best location - Randall's Island. It is in the middle of the river and isolated geographically. A camp could be built quickly with FEMA funds. Checkpoints to prevent bums from leaving prematurely can be easily setup.
Why should it be FEMA exactly - it is a NYC problem?
What about school and work every morning and to look for work.
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