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Old 07-02-2023, 05:46 PM
 
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"Chinatown style tenements" stopped neither Chinatown or the LES from gentrifying. Bushwick and Ridgewood are mostly walkup New Law tenements (though, they max out at 4 stories).
Never said it didn't, I just said that that type of tenement housing is why East Harlem will not gentrify as quickly as the east side of Washington Heights.
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Old 07-02-2023, 06:19 PM
 
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Never said it didn't, I just said that that type of tenement housing is why East Harlem will not gentrify as quickly as the east side of Washington Heights.
I agree about the NYCHA buildings. But do you find the New Law tenements that dominate the East side of Washington Heights to be that much more appealing than the 1800s tenements?
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Old 07-02-2023, 06:33 PM
 
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I agree about the NYCHA buildings. But do you find the New Law tenements that dominate the East side of Washington Heights to be that much more appealing than the 1800s tenements?
You know what, I want to revise what I said. After taking a recent Street View gallop around East Harlem, the housing stock actually reminds me of the LES more than Chinatown. Despite that, I still think east side of Washington Heights will gentrify quicker.

There's more actual multiple dwelling (over 6 family) buildings as opposed to 3-4 family buildings. East Harlem has a plethora of 3-4 family buildings, but very few standalone apartment buildings compared to east side of Washington Heights.

East side of Washington Heights has more of a mix of housing, ranging from single family (Sylvan Terrace, landmarked) up to those high-rise buildings over the Trans-Manhattan Expwy on Audubon Avenue. A wide range of housing stock. Surprisingly a lot of limestones (like brownstones) in lower Washington Heights. So this is why I think it will gentrify quicker than East Harlem, a wider selection of housing stock available for renters and owners alike. An ideal neighborhood should have a good mix of both. IMO too much of one thing all by itself is no good.

I don't use one seasoning by itself when I cook dinner, it's usually a mix of seasonings and spices.
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Old 07-04-2023, 09:09 AM
 
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You know what, I want to revise what I said. After taking a recent Street View gallop around East Harlem, the housing stock actually reminds me of the LES more than Chinatown. Despite that, I still think east side of Washington Heights will gentrify quicker.

There's more actual multiple dwelling (over 6 family) buildings as opposed to 3-4 family buildings. East Harlem has a plethora of 3-4 family buildings, but very few standalone apartment buildings compared to east side of Washington Heights.

East side of Washington Heights has more of a mix of housing, ranging from single family (Sylvan Terrace, landmarked) up to those high-rise buildings over the Trans-Manhattan Expwy on Audubon Avenue. A wide range of housing stock. Surprisingly a lot of limestones (like brownstones) in lower Washington Heights. So this is why I think it will gentrify quicker than East Harlem, a wider selection of housing stock available for renters and owners alike. An ideal neighborhood should have a good mix of both. IMO too much of one thing all by itself is no good.

I don't use one seasoning by itself when I cook dinner, it's usually a mix of seasonings and spices.
You mean ALL of Washington Heights east of Broadway or just the southern part? I just don't see that happening. Some of the housing stock is just unappealing (some of it is actually fine once renovated). West of Broadway is quieter and more appealing and always has been because the housing stock (generally speaking) has been better. Similar situation in Inwood West of Broadway, which is where almost all of the co-ops are. East of Broadway is all rentals and mainly Section 8 housing, though not all buildings are.
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Old 07-04-2023, 09:58 AM
 
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You mean ALL of Washington Heights east of Broadway or just the southern part? I just don't see that happening. Some of the housing stock is just unappealing (some of it is actually fine once renovated). West of Broadway is quieter and more appealing and always has been because the housing stock (generally speaking) has been better. Similar situation in Inwood West of Broadway, which is where almost all of the co-ops are. East of Broadway is all rentals and mainly Section 8 housing, though not all buildings are.
All of it east of Broadway - however the southeastern part will gentrify the fastest. Actually some very nice limestones in the lower 160s.
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Old 07-04-2023, 10:36 AM
 
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Old 07-04-2023, 04:17 PM
 
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The Bronx is the poorest borough in the City. Income hovering around $35,000.
The Bronx is riddled with housing projects. I know 7 that come to mind.
100 developments with about 45,000 low income apartments.
The Bronx is the poorest district in the nation.
The Bronx was and still might be the Covid Capital of New York City.

Dang....................Since people are buying into anything
I cleaned up an old toilet sitting in my basement and I'm going to sell it as the worlds largest Faberage Egg.
Any takers?.......................................( Sarcasm )
Exactly! I would suspect not a single person from the state of NY or who know ANYTHING about the area would be so stupid enough to invest money to step out your door into that...
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Old 07-04-2023, 09:09 PM
 
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All of it east of Broadway - however the southeastern part will gentrify the fastest. Actually some very nice limestones in the lower 160s.
The southern part I would agree with but ALL of it? Absolutely not. Too many Section 8 people, plus the condition of those buildings... Have you seen them? lol
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Old 07-05-2023, 10:29 AM
 
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138th street have officially enter gentrifying stage it now 2005-2009 Brooklyn.
it looks nothing like BK back then... just looks like a chaaaange is happening.
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Old 07-05-2023, 06:34 PM
 
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The southern part I would agree with but ALL of it? Absolutely not. Too many Section 8 people, plus the condition of those buildings... Have you seen them? lol
People need a place to live and as long as someone is willing to pay higher than the other person, then it will be inevitable
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