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Old 02-16-2022, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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I wish guys like Nassiem Ordonez all the best. At least he's trying and organizations like CSS, JobsFirstNYC and Phipps Neighborhoods are trying to help. God bless them.

"New Yorkers like 22-year-old Nassiem Ordonez live with the consequences. Raised in the South Bronx primarily by his grandmother, he dropped out of school in the ninth grade and since then has worked only for short periods of time — off the books and low paying jobs, mostly in factories.

“My father wasn’t in my life at the time and I had no one to show me how to find a job when I started looking at 14,” he said.

Ordonez is getting the kind of help CSS and JobsFirstNYC envision. He’s enrolling in a program at Phipps Neighborhoods next month where he hopes to earn a GED degree. In addition to providing schooling in the morning, Phipps will help him with a subsidized job in the afternoon to help make ends meet. And it will provide other skills, Ordonez said, “showing me the proper way to conduct myself professionally at interviews.

If all goes well, he hopes to become an EMT for the city".

https://www.thecity.nyc/work/2022/2/...ove-15-percent

One in five Black New Yorkers is either officially unemployed, stuck in a part-time job when they want full-time work, or so discouraged they are not even looking for employment — suffering the worst job hits of the pandemic recession.

While Black unemployment is historically higher than that for other groups and harder hit by economic downturns, the data this time is more worrisome, according to new research from New School economist James Parrott.

It shows that while white joblessness declined steadily last year, Black unemployment dipped only slightly and rose toward the end of the year.

There is no consensus about the reasons the pandemic recession is worse for Black New Yorkers or even which parts of communities have been affected the most, in part because the available data isn’t detailed enough. But the dire numbers are spurring concern.

“This is a startling trend that the city and state must take seriously and address,” said David Jones, president of the Community Service Society of New York, an anti-poverty policy nonprofit.

“The Black community has taken severe economic blows throughout the pandemic, from job loss, death, health tragedies, and beyond. And COVID’s impact on remote schooling for Black youth will be felt for decades.”

New Mayor Eric Adams vows he will deal with what many call a crisis, although he has yet to announce any far-reaching measures to do so. Similarly, Gov. Kathy Hochul has had little to say on the subject.

JobsFirstNYC, which works to improve the economic prospects for young New Yorkers, found that in the pandemic 18- to 24-year-olds in New York City are 35% more likely to have lost work than all other workers. The group’s analysis after the 2008 recession also showed that age group was concentrated in food service and retail and low-paying health care positions. All three industries have been devastated by the pandemic.

CEO Marjorie Parker also notes that a large number of young people, especially those of color, have left school. This adds to the unemployment rate because students are not counted in the workforce — but those who leave school become either unemployed or discouraged workers.

 
Old 02-16-2022, 10:17 AM
 
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Dont forget about those people who no longer claim unemployment and are getting by however they can.
 
Old 02-16-2022, 11:26 AM
 
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it's sick how the city oppresses its black populace. The oppurtunity in Harlem, the bronx isn't the same as for priviliged white folks in Midtown manhattan or brooklyn. We need reparations.


the reasons riots and looting happens is because the government has neglected a community for so long. Give us resources, give us jobs, give us hope, give us benefits, give us cheap housing. Instead they leave the community to fend for itself, disgusting.
 
Old 02-16-2022, 11:40 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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it's sick how the city oppresses its black populace. The oppurtunity in Harlem, the bronx isn't the same as for priviliged white folks in Midtown manhattan or brooklyn. We need reparations.


the reasons riots and looting happens is because the government has neglected a community for so long. Give us resources, give us jobs, give us hope, give us benefits, give us cheap housing. Instead they leave the community to fend for itself, disgusting.
Oh please. You must be joking. No one is forcing the black youth to not attend school. That's a decision they make trying to live the fast life.

Going to school and working hard to obtain success isn't glamorous. It is what it is. Until Black families start pushing education and stop with the whole glorification of the fast life, nothing will change.
 
Old 02-16-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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the reasons riots and looting happens is because the government has neglected a community for so long. Give us resources, give us jobs, give us hope, give us benefits, give us cheap housing. Instead they leave the community to fend for itself, disgusting.
So is this why the Looting happened Sunday in LA after the Rams won the Superbowl?
 
Old 02-16-2022, 11:47 AM
 
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Oh please. You must be joking. No one is forcing the black youth to not attend school. That's a decision they make trying to live the fast life.

Going to school and working hard to obtain success isn't glamorous. It is what it is. Until Black families start pushing education and stop with the whole glorification of the fast life, nothing will change.

do you not understand 400 years of slavery? Hundred years of segregation? And the oppression that continues today? Black men are literally hunted and killed by the police in this country. Oh and can't forget the war on drugs which incarcerated millions of black fathers. So many black fathers in Rikers Island it makes me sick. They need to be free.


The reason for the singlemotherhood epidemic is because of the government. We need more resources and help. Every other race and community is succeeding meanwhile we're stuck at the bottom with nobody giving us anything.


This is a fact. Anybody who denies this is either racist or a trump supporter.
 
Old 02-16-2022, 11:48 AM
 
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So is this why the Looting happened Sunday in LA after the Rams won the Superbowl?

LA literally gentrified and kicked black familes out for that stadium to be built. This is economic oppression. Gentrification is literally violence. So if thats how the oppressed express their anger after getting their homes taken from them, who am I to judge?
 
Old 02-16-2022, 11:50 AM
 
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do you not understand 400 years of slavery? Hundred years of segregation? And the oppression that continues today? Black men are literally hunted and killed by the police in this country. Oh and can't forget the war on drugs which incarcerated millions of black fathers.


The reason for the singlemotherhood epidemic is because of the government. We need more resources and help. Every other race and community is succeeding meanwhile we're stuck at the bottom with nobody giving us anything.


This is a fact. Anybody who denies this is either racist or a trump supporter.
I'll agree with that. Subsidize anything and you get more of it.
 
Old 02-16-2022, 11:51 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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do you not understand 400 years of slavery? Hundred years of segregation? And the oppression that continues today? Black men are literally hunted and killed by the police in this country. Oh and can't forget the war on drugs which incarcerated millions of black fathers.


The reason for the singlemotherhood epidemic is because of the government. We need more resources and help. Every other race and community is succeeding meanwhile we're stuck at the bottom with nobody giving us anything.


This is a fact. Anybody who denies this is either racist or a trump supporter.
What does 400 years of slavery have to do with Black youth not wanting to attend school? I'm not denying that there is racism and that does impede Blacks from progressing, but the idea that they are essentially "doomed" without help from the government is absurd. The main obstacle facing Blacks is a lack of education. Yes, I'm well aware of job and housing discrimination and lower pay for jobs that Blacks may be qualified for the same as a White person, but that does not mean that it's impossible for Blacks to succeed as you're implying. It just means it's harder, but it's also harder for other minority groups.

There are many Asian groups that come here with nothing, work their butts off and do what they have to to get ahead. You have to start somewhere. Sitting around and blaming the government for a lack of action is not going to get anything done.

There are many reasons Blacks are struggling... Lack of a support system within their own community as well. It's not just racism hurting Blacks... There is plenty of Black on Black discrimination too... West Indian Blacks not caring for American Blacks... African Blacks feuding with other Black groups, etc. Then there is the financial situation... Lack of savings and financial savviness...

The world is set up better for those who are middle class or otherwise monied with a support system, but that support system is usually family. Blacks need to band together the way other groups do. Jews stick together... Italians stick together... On and on... When it comes down to it, every group has their disagreements, but it seems like Blacks are at each other's throats, envious of the next person trying to get ahead, and each group is so prideful.
 
Old 02-16-2022, 12:29 PM
 
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Are we really blaming slavery still? It happened, it shouldn’t of but it did. It was abolished 157ish years ago. That excuse can’t be used anymore. No one is struggling because great great great great grandpa Joe was a slave and brought here from Africa.

Being a single mother isn’t a race issue. It’s a personal responsibility issue.
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