Has anyone from Western NYS moved south and then moved back to WNYS at all? (Buffalo: housing)

[smalltownusa]

Originally Posted by groove1

Traffic isn't that bad in Charlotte. I make it to work in 25 minutes and that's 20 miles from just outside of the city. I used to have to drive on the 198 from North Buffalo to Cheektowaga for work and that was pretty bad at 8am.; don't know if it still is. I also live in one of the top school districts in the entire country:

Schools, Fort Mill, South Carolina

Fort Mill High School - Fort Mill, South Carolina - SC - school overview

IF I had children, I would put them in this school district over any in WNY anyday.
WNY has its fair share of ugly strip malls too, coupled with cheap motels along Niagara Falls Blvd. Those are really asthetic.

You must have missed the Forbes report on the NC forum that listed NY as having 3 out of 20 top hs/colleges (one being Rochester, a former location of a lot of new NC-ers) in the country and the majority of the 20 fell in the northeast. You can knock us for our weather, our taxes, and our weather, but our schools ARE the best.... And there is not a single former NYer that will argue you on that point. Actually, a NY education for their kids is one of the top reasons I hear people state their move back here was based on..........

[smalltownusa]

Originally Posted by I'minformed2

You don't sound like a terribly friendly person yourself right there. Maybe the citizens of Buffalo were just reacting to what they percieved as unfriendliness from you?

hahahaha, how true.

[NYMD67]

Don't know what you are considering the South to be,but if you are looking to go to MD, don't... the housing market is extremely expensive, even in today's downward trend in the market.
You can get a mansion in Buffalo,Rochester,etc for what you pay for a ranch in the mid-atlantic!

[itSmellsBAD]

Yes. Stay in the South. Anything is better than here. Taxes are going up. School taxes are soaring. Sales tax is close to 9 % . Fee and road tolls are killers.

Moved away and came back like many others. This time it's for good. Push the handle on the toilet down and flush. WNY is toast for at least another generation. Love the area but Albany and the teachers unions have ruined it for at least the next 20 years. NY Pension obligations are so out of touch........any stock market losses have to be made up by the taxpayers. It's socialism totally out of control. Why anyone working in the private sector would want to move here is beyond me.

[smalltownusa]

Originally Posted by itSmellsBAD

Yes. Stay in the South. Anything is better than here. Taxes are going up. School taxes are soaring. Sales tax is close to 9 % . Fee and road tolls are killers.

Moved away and came back like many others. This time it's for good. Push the handle on the toilet down and flush. WNY is toast for at least another generation. Love the area but Albany and the teachers unions have ruined it for at least the next 20 years. NY Pension obligations are so out of touch........any stock market losses have to be made up by the taxpayers. It's socialism totally out of control. Why anyone working in the private sector would want to move here is beyond me.

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[iloveupstateny]

Originally Posted by smalltownusa

You must have missed the Forbes report on the NC forum that listed NY as having 3 out of 20 top hs/colleges (one being Rochester, a former location of a lot of new NC-ers) in the country and the majority of the 20 fell in the northeast. You can knock us for our weather, our taxes, and our weather, but our schools ARE the best.... And there is not a single former NYer that will argue you on that point. Actually, a NY education for their kids is one of the top reasons I hear people state their move back here was based on..........

Sometimes it is VERY clear, who has and who hasn't lived in an area their entire life? I ask because a few people on here are a little bit too sure of themselves (always PRO PRO PRO Rochester) and one-dimensional (and always anti-NC). I mean after reading Spitzer's state of the upstate address, I'm ready to move back to the land of gingerbread houses and unicorns, where the streets are paved with licorice and money literally grows on the trees---but then I know a bit better. That's the problem with this board. Tons of people complaining but few have experienced whatever they are complaining or whining about.

[I'minformed2]

OK...well, as someone who has lived in both Rochester AND NC or extended periods of time, I can attest, that overall, the schools in the Rochester region are much better than those in the Raleigh area. Does this justify our very high taxes? No. But it is a valid reason for someone to like living in Rochester better than NC (and one of several for me personally).

[iloveupstateny]

Originally Posted by I'minformed2

OK...well, as someone who has lived in both Rochester AND NC or extended periods of time, I can attest, that overall, the schools in the Rochester region are much better than those in the Raleigh area. Does this justify our very high taxes? No. But it is a valid reason for someone to like living in Rochester better than NC (and one of several for me personally).

Right, and I agree with you for the most part. But saying ALL of NY schools are better than ALL of the ones in NC is a bit much. Actually Fort Mill is in SC so I stand corrected.

I personally have seen way too many kids coming from NY deemed needing special education and labeled as Autistic, Mentally Disabled, Emotionally Disabled, etc. when in fact, they aren't and since the state is way lax in qualifying kids in NY than other places and usually leaves it to about 2-3 people on a team----but I guess that wouldn't be reflected in forbes list. Any attorneys that like to sue schools out there?

also re: these lists. Aren't most school districts south of PA county school districts......so wouldn't they actually be reflecting 100 individual schools for the most part for most large districts instead of 3-6 like the NE counterparts? So how then can anyone compare that? It is like comparing tuna fish to motor oil??????????

[itSmellsBAD]

Originally Posted by iloveupstateny

also re: these lists. Aren't most school districts south of PA county school districts......so wouldn't they actually be reflecting 100 individual schools for the most part for most large districts instead of 3-6 like the NE counterparts? So how then can anyone compare that? It is like comparing tuna fish to motor oil??????????

EXCELLENT POINT! Hamburg NY has TWO school districts; one for the Village and one for the town. There's also Lakeview school district, Orchard Park school district, West Seneca, etc all within 10 miles. Most areas down South have huge school districts that cater to a wide geographic area so the comparison data is skewed. If you put Buffalo school district in with all the suburbs, the rating would plunge.

[I'minformed2]

I don't think you guys understand....that's the POINT. The smaller school districts are better. The north has smaller school districts, the south has larger county-wide ones. Town/neighborhood school districts are usually better than county school districts. There is no "skewed data". That's just the way it is. You can't say "if it were monroe or erie COUNTY schools"...because it's a "What if".