They have Mountain Lions and Coyotes in those OC parks (Glendale: live, dangerous)

[purple73]

We live in Huntington Beach............my kids attend Golden View Elementary. The school has a farm with a garden and animals. Rabbits, chickens, Ducks, goats, ect.............they find dead rabbits and chickens all the time because coyotes have jumped the chain link fence.

[HarleyGuyOC]

Originally Posted by purple73

We live in Huntington Beach............my kids attend Golden View Elementary. The school has a farm with a garden and animals. Rabbits, chickens, Ducks, goats, ect.............they find dead rabbits and chickens all the time because coyotes have jumped the chain link fence.

Time to add another 6 inches or so to the tops of those fences then, I'd dare venture say .

[Coldjensens]

THere are dozens of Coyotes living in downtown Los Angeles. They figured this out from atm cameras.

I have spent literally thousands of hours hiking in the Cleveland national forest and hundred out at whiting ranch. I have never seen a mountain lion and only a few cootes (generally right before dark). It is not that common to see them. I have seen one rattle snake, a baby that I stepped on (extremely dangerous, but it bit the heel of my boot). THat was in Asuza on the trail to the Bridge to nowhere.

THe most dangerous thing ont he trails - people. Either idiots on bikes or horses not looking where they are going or gangbangers and other psychopaths who think they are BA.

[SunnyTXsmile]

Originally Posted by Coldjensens

THere are dozens of Coyotes living in downtown Los Angeles. They figured this out from atm cameras.

I have spent literally thousands of hours hiking in the Cleveland national forest and hundred out at whiting ranch. I have never seen a mountain lion and only a few cootes (generally right before dark). It is not that common to see them. I have seen one rattle snake, a baby that I stepped on (extremely dangerous, but it bit the heel of my boot). THat was in Asuza on the trail to the Bridge to nowhere.

THe most dangerous thing ont he trails - people. Either idiots on bikes or horses not looking where they are going or gangbangers and other psychopaths who think they are BA.

That's surprising that you haven't seen that many hiking. I saw a few crossing the street right in Laguna Beach (and Newport Beach, too, now that I think about it). I suppose most have them left the parks for the great beaches and nightlife. lol

[Coldjensens]

THey may be clustered along the edges of the developments. Not much to eat up int he hills. Cats and little dogs are easier to catch than rabiits or chipmunks and there is lots of trash to dig through.

I have seen a few up around big bear while camping. They mostly come out after dark and I usually try to get out of the parks before dark.

[DewDropInn]

Originally Posted by Coldjensens

I have seen a few up around big bear while camping.

There are plenty around the lake. I've spent many nights listening to them howl. Good number of bears too.

[CAVA1990]

Originally Posted by DewDropInn

They will if they're hungry enough. Or if you smell like lunch..

I've never heard of a coyote attack on humans, at least adults. Even wolf attacks are very rare. In fact, I'm sure there've been a lot more injuries and fatalities caused by domestic dogs.

[Captain-Jack]

Originally Posted by CAVA1990

I've never heard of a coyote attack on humans, at least adults. Even wolf attacks are very rare. In fact, I'm sure there've been a lot more injuries and fatalities caused by domestic dogs.

Agreed.

My mom in Arizona says coyotes walk right up to the golf course and watch the people play and there's never been an incident.

[Vary]

They're opportunistic. Why take on a big human when they can go down a few houses and snatch a shih-tsu. Much easier pickings.

We have one particular guy who hangs out in our neighborhood, and you can spot him almost every night. I think he likes the proliferation of rabbits in the area.

[DewDropInn]

Originally Posted by Captain-Jack

Agreed.

My mom in Arizona says coyotes walk right up to the golf course and watch the people play and there's never been an incident.

Coyote attacks ARE rare but three people were bitten in Peoria, AZ just last March. Authorities believe someone in the area had been feeding the coyotes and they'd been associating humans with food. A woman was also bitten outside a library in AZ a few years ago. She worked preparing meats. It's believed the smell of blood on her work apron attracted the coyote.

My point was the bites are rare because coyotes have so many small animals available to them but human bites do happen. In addition, after the fatal attack by a coyote on a 3 year old girl in Glendale, CA in 1981 the state instituted urban coyote management programs.