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Old 03-22-2013, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Just wondering, a few, back when this was done, suggested racism was. I'm not so sure.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:11 PM
 
Location: The East
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More classism than racism. The affluent folks live near the lake. El Toro road is more working class in image and reality. It made the affluent nervous. They did not want to be lumped under the same city name as them. Also I remember hearing about people complaining the word 'El Toro' spanish for bull, was to coarse sounding for the affluent white people. Pretty lame huh?
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:23 PM
 
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Can you guys come with anything other than racism?

It is all about marketing. They want to attract new residents and new businesses. It is strictly economic.

If you want to cry racism - that is all the disenfranchised have left - then blame those moving in for being so shallow that they do not want to move to a place called El Toro. It was a just an old Marine base, that is all. Had nothing to do with racism. The base is gone, time to change the name.

Any deeper meaning to it other than that is that two or three drunken real estate people decided one night over Manhattans that they could sell more houses if the place had a better image.

Yeah, there is a national racist conspiracy behind every door in white America.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:24 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Classism indeed. It was good enough to be MCAS El Toro beginning in the 1940s. Guess that wasn't high-brow enough for the elitests in the '90s. Pity! My father was stationed there as a USMC pilot in the '50s and none of us gave the name a second thought. Nor did I in the 70s when I did my shopping there and belonged to the O-Club as an Army officer. Seemed like a fine name to me.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Corona the I.E.
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El Toro had a heavy association with that military base as well. Lake Forest sounds calm and soothing.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Wasn't it because it was incorporated? Where I grew up was considered Laguna Niguel, and now it's called Dana Point for the same reason. No racism as far as I know.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:26 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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El Toro had a heavy association with that military base as well. Lake Forest sounds calm and soothing.
It should. It sounds like a freaking cemetery!
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Old 03-23-2013, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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What was behind the renaming of Aliso City to El Toro?
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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If you want to cry racism - that is all the disenfranchised have left - then blame those moving in for being so shallow that they do not want to move to a place called El Toro. It was a just an old Marine base, that is all. Had nothing to do with racism. The base is gone, time to change the name.
The name predated the base.
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Old 03-23-2013, 04:17 PM
 
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Where I grew up was considered Laguna Niguel,
Just what is a niguel, by the way?
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