Wicca - white or black, magic is from Satan (spirits, ghosts, verse)

[ShadowXOR]

In my perfect world: If you don't let your kids watch Harry Potter (if they want to) your children are taken and put in foster homes. In my opinion, you are not a suitable parent. You're an overzealous lunatic that would be burning witches if you were alive during that time period! You may even try to start it up again!

[dreamofmonterey]

Originally Posted by Marks

Again, Nea1, the type of magic you keep referring to may or may not exist, but that is just what the powers of darkness would like for you think. Most people think the devil runs around in a red suit, horns, and a pitchfork but that's totally inaccurate. Think subtle, think deception, think evil passed off as something harmless, and that is the cause for concern.

To believe that "magic" does not exist is just what satan would like you to believe so you get hooked in and one thing will lead to another. Have you ever encountered someone demon possessed? I have, and after being delivered when asked how did this happen they state, "I was playing with a ouija board, I didn't think it was wrong."

You have encountered a possessed person? Can you cite a case study?

[dreamofmonterey]

If a person has played with a Ouija board, does that mean they will be spending time in Dantes 7th circle of h*ll? who determines this?

[CelticLady1]

Originally Posted by ontheroad

This is the true mark of respect--and being true to oneself. I try to embrace the same principles. Fortunately, my children espouse similar beliefs to my own. I gave them Phillip Pullman's trilogy, Dark Materials, far more threatening than Harry Potter! And they loved it!

Well, my daughter has the other two grandkids, both boys. She doesn't have a problem with HP, however, she knows that she should wait for some time, to allow them access, as Kian is only three, and Aydan is seven.

"Dark Materials"? I've not heard of that. Is it fantasy, like TLOTR and HP? You've got my curiosity going, now.

[_redbird_]

Originally Posted by Marks

But...

These books TEACH children to cast spells, do magic, believe in witches, wizards, etc.

Mark, HP is called fantasy because you cannot teach children how to make a broomstick fly. Believe me, I have tried. "UP!" "UP!!!" See? It doesn't work.

You remember Glenda the good witch in the Wizard of Oz? Well, she does not exist either. So learn to differentiate between reality and ...BWaaahahahaa....ohhhh noooo...those wiccans have put a spell on me.... help me Mark.... heeeelppp meee eee eeee. ....

[JerZ]

Imagination serves a very, very useful and practical purpose. Human beings were designed to be flexible and for their survival, in fact, to actually depend upon mental flexibility, imagining new possibilities and the like. That's our hallmark. We don't have huge claws, we don't have thick hides and we don't have enormous stomping size.

We have our brains.

Interest in "strange" or "different" things has a very very important purpose for humans, child and adult alike. If we cease to stretch our minds outside what we have until this point held as true, then we cease to lose flexibility and our minds actually deteriorate.

Have you ever notice that people talk about older people "beginning to die" when they become mentally inflexible? When they will only allow their one TV show, with them only in the one specific chair, having just eaten the one exact dinner they expect on Wednesdays?

Stories about magic have always abounded. Certainly most Disney stories contain either elements of magic, outright magic or go so far as to have either a villian or a hero called or dress in the sterotypical way we know of as a witch. Stories about magic teach children that there could be more than what they currently know--this is a very important lesson. It's not the "only" way to get the lesson, so it's not like it's absolutely required or anything. But it is one very good, very definite way to get the message across--not that the specific things in the story exist, but simply that there could be more than they think there is. It is not a harmful or Satanic thing. It is a very very human thing and an important exercise for the mind to think beyond one's current boundaries.

[ontheroad]

Blasphemy. Don't forget there was also a wicked witch!

Originally Posted by redbird4848

Mark, HP is called fantasy because you cannot teach children how to make a broomstick fly. Believe me, I have tried. "UP!" "UP!!!" See? It doesn't work.

You remember Glenda the good witch in the Wizard of Oz? Well, she does not exist either. So learn to differentiate between reality and ...BWaaahahahaa....ohhhh noooo...those wiccans have put a spell on me.... help me Mark.... heeeelppp meee eee eeee. ....

[CelticLady1]

Originally Posted by sunnyhelena

If a person has played with a Ouija board, does that mean they will be spending time in Dantes 7th circle of h*ll? who determines this?

LOL! That's what my son calls his job! Maybe that's what caused him to buy a copy of "The Inferno". He started reading it, yesterday. Guess I'll have to take a look at it, myself. I've read alot of classics, but not that one. By the way, did you know that many people think that that is where much of the typical description of hell, as most people understand it, comes from? Or, at least, so I've heard. Think I heard it on The History Channel, as a matter of fact, on their program about Hell. Very interesting program!

[ontheroad]

If you want some lighter reading, you might take a look at Piers Anthony's trilogy--a breathtaking example of hell and finding salvation (through the tarot); and Phillip Pullman's trilogy, Dark Materials (for which he won the Whitbread Award in Great Britain--a first ever for a children's book). Anthony's is a harder read more in keeping with Dante.

Originally Posted by CelticLady1

LOL! That's what my son calls his job! Maybe that's what caused him to buy a copy of "The Inferno". He started reading it, yesterday. Guess I'll have to take a look at it, myself. I've read alot of classics, but not that one. By the way, did you know that many people think that that is where much of the typical description of hell, as most people understand it, comes from? Or, at least, so I've heard. Think I heard it on The History Channel, as a matter of fact, on their program about Hell. Very interesting program!

[PrettyHateMachine]

Originally Posted by Marks

What's an "undead" army? if dead is dead it's then not "undead" that would be alive.

I guess what Lucidus means is like Jesus hanging out for a while after the third day of his death before he ascended to heaven.