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Old 02-16-2012, 08:15 AM
 
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Doesn't matter how the nugget is made at school. If kids don't learn to make and eat food in and from their own homes, they will never bake a "healthy" nugget at home. Guaranteed.

If they learn to make and eat a sandwich at/from home, they will understand how to make a sandwich....
Actually i disagree with that on somewhat personal experience. I have a friend in my group who basically ate junk food at her house, then always ate the junk food at school thinking it was normal. However when she went to high school they only had the healthy options to buy and that affected her outlook. She said she had no idea that the food she ate at home was not normal or bad for her. Anyway she began pestering her parents for better food, and while they kept eating junk they bought healthier options for her. So i think you will get some children that are affected by it.

And even if they don't like i said, at least the one nutritious lunch a day will reduce some of the health risks.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:20 AM
 
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Good grief, what a way to overreact!


From the article you posted:


"A teacher apparently was concerned about one child’s homemade lunch and overreacted. I am being told that the school apologized to the parent."


This was one isolated incident.
It may be one isolated incident but I think it illustrates how much power schools have in the lives of children. I think that the idea that a teacher even thinks that they have the power to decide what a child should have to eat illustrates exactly what role schools see for themselves.

Schools are becoming elitist institutions and frequently many of the school employees think that they know what is better for a child than his parents. School employees are NOT the child's parents.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:21 AM
 
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Actually i disagree with that on somewhat personal experience. I have a friend in my group who basically ate junk food at her house, then always ate the junk food at school thinking it was normal. However when she went to high school they only had the healthy options to buy and that affected her outlook. She said she had no idea that the food she ate at home was not normal or bad for her. Anyway she began pestering her parents for better food, and while they kept eating junk they bought healthier options for her. So i think you will get some children that are affected by it.

And even if they don't like i said, at least the one nutritious lunch a day will reduce some of the health risks.
Kids who buy lunch every day, tend to become adults who buy their lunches every day. While there are healthy choices at restaurants, you usually have to look very hard to find them.

Your friend may have been seeing "healthy baked chicken nuggets" in the cafeteria line, but many (maybe most) of the other kids were seeing just plain old Chicken Nuggets, Hamburgers, Pizza.....
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:22 AM
 
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It may be one isolated incident but I think it illustrates how much power schools have in the lives of children. I think that the idea that a teacher even thinks that they have the power to decide what a child should have to eat illustrates exactly what role schools see for themselves.

Schools are becoming elitist institutions and frequently many of the school employees think that they know what is better for a child than his parents. School employees are NOT the child's parents.

I think if you are packing junk food for your child and the teacher wants to feed them good food then they do know what's better .
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:23 AM
 
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It may be one isolated incident but I think it illustrates how much power schools have in the lives of children. I think that the idea that a teacher even thinks that they have the power to decide what a child should have to eat illustrates exactly what role schools see for themselves.

Schools are becoming elitist institutions and frequently many of the school employees think that they know what is better for a child than his parents. School employees are NOT the child's parents.
"A state inspector (not sure what that means) checking a Raeford, N.C., elementary school lunchroom decreed that a 4-year-old’s lunch from home — a turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice — did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to the Carolina Journal story. Instead, the child was given cafeteria chicken nuggets."

Daycare centers and preschool are licensed by the state. They all (should) be inspected by the state or county to ensure that they are meeting standards. It was not a teacher or any other school employee, just for clarification. ETA I see now that is was an elem school. Why was a 4 yo at an elem school? In any case, it wasn't the school itself.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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Kids who buy lunch every day, tend to become adults who buy their lunches every day. While there are healthy choices at restaurants, you usually have to look very hard to find them.

Your friend may have been seeing "healthy baked chicken nuggets" in the cafeteria line, but many (maybe most) of the other kids were seeing just plain old Chicken Nuggets, Hamburgers, Pizza.....
I'm not saying it's going to vastly alter the nature of most people, but if it does do some good it does have merit.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:26 AM
 
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I think if you are packing junk food for your child and the teacher wants to feed them good food then they do know what's better .
What's better, though? A kid who *knowingly* eats junk food or a kid that eats healthy food disguised as junk food?

Aren't they training themselves to eat the same things?
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:26 AM
 
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I think if you are packing junk food for your child and the teacher wants to feed them good food then they do know what's better .
The lunch was not junk food! If it had been a bag of cheetos and a soda, I might support what this person did. It wasn't.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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The lunch was not junk food! If it had been a bag of cheetos and a soda, I might support what this person did. It wasn't.
How was it not junk?
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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What's better, though? A kid who *knowingly* eats junk food or a kid that eats healthy food disguised as junk food?

Aren't they training themselves to eat the same things?
You have a point with that i will admit. My school didn't have things like pizza and burgers, and had veggie options. But then again i realize not all schools are like that too.
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