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11-03-2008, 09:27 AM
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The land of bougainvillea, citrus and palm trees
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Location: Mesa, Az
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Originally Posted by military spouse
NYC! I'd have to have enough money to go to nice restaurants and the theater whenever I wanted. I would also want to live in a great area, maybe across from Bryant Park.
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Apparently NYC has improved dramatically from its 'dog days' ca. 1976-84 till now. 
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11-03-2008, 09:31 AM
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ocoLocruT
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear
If I had to leave the Southwest: the Puget Sound area would be high on my radar as well.
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Did you mean the ' Goose Island', Dr. Falken? 
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11-03-2008, 11:09 AM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Currently Seattle, eventually Arizona
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear
Apparently NYC has improved dramatically from its 'dog days' ca. 1976-84 till now. 
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Oh YEAH!
I graduated from HS out in East Hampton on Long Island in 1973 and made many trips into the city back then. It was a PIT.
MUCH, MUCH better today - NO comparison.
Of course the same is true of Seattle. It was pretty bad off when I moved here (from NY in 73) and (except for traffic and the cost of housing) is a WHOLE lot better now than it was then.
Crime in particular is WAY DOWN in both places - as it is generally nationwide.
Ken
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11-03-2008, 11:43 AM
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The land of bougainvillea, citrus and palm trees
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Originally Posted by LordBalfor
Oh YEAH!
I graduated from HS out in East Hampton on Long Island in 1973 and made many trips into the city back then. It was a PIT.
MUCH, MUCH better today - NO comparison.
Of course the same is true of Seattle. It was pretty bad off when I moved here (from NY in 73) and (except for traffic and the cost of housing) is a WHOLE lot better now than it was then.
Crime in particular is WAY DOWN in both places - as it is generally nationwide.
Ken
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That is interesting about Seattle: the impression I have gotten from old timers who lived there 40 years ago was it was much nicer as in down to earth vs. the glitzy/moneyed atmosphere today.
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11-03-2008, 12:05 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Currently Seattle, eventually Arizona
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Originally Posted by ArizonaBear
That is interesting about Seattle: the impression I have gotten from old timers who lived there 40 years ago was it was much nicer as in down to earth vs. the glitzy/moneyed atmosphere today.
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There is some truth in that. Seattle WAS a pretty small city back then - much less glitzy/moneyed atmosphere than has today. The problem is, it was also pretty economically depressed - after all just a few year earlier the famous "will the last person leaving Seattle please turn off the lights" billboard had been put up. Back then many parts of the city were badly decayed and run-down and the crime rate was very high. Even the East Side cities of Bellevue etc were pretty quiet economically. On Sundays, downtown Bellevue was a ghost town. I spent the late 70's running a car wash in a very bad part of Seattle and have many pretty horrid stories to tell - including that of a girl I once dated being murdered by her then-boyfriend, my wife almost being robbed, and 2 dudes who (briefly) worked for me later being convicted of the murder of cops' wife (and attempted murder of the cop - who had arrested them for a previous crime). All in all, Seattle was not that great a place back then.
I MUCH prefer it nowadays.
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11-03-2008, 12:17 PM
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The land of bougainvillea, citrus and palm trees
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Mesa, Az
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Originally Posted by LordBalfor
There is some truth in that. Seattle WAS a pretty small city back then - much less glitzy/moneyed atmosphere than has today. The problem is, it was also pretty economically depressed - after all just a few year earlier the famous "will the last person leaving Seattle please turn off the lights" billboard had been put up. Back then many parts of the city were badly decayed and run-down and the crime rate was very high. Even the East Side cities of Bellevue etc were pretty quiet economically. On Sundays, downtown Bellevue was a ghost town. I spent the late 70's running a car wash in a very bad part of Seattle and have many pretty horrid stories to tell - including that of a girl I once dated being murdered by her then-boyfriend, my wife almost being robbed, and 2 dudes who (briefly) worked for me later being convicted of the murder of cops' wife (and attempted murder of the cop - who had arrested them for a previous crime). All in all, Seattle was not that great a place back then.
I MUCH prefer it nowadays.
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WOW!
That is interesting...........I had no idea that Seattle was that bad since at least WW II. 
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