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Old 10-12-2010, 01:10 AM
 
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I don't know how Pittsburgh was ranked ahead of Rome and Boston, but our city IS picturesque.
i never thought Rome was 'pretty'. amazing and rich in antiquities, architecture, history, blah blah blah - but 'pretty'? quite the contrary.

(as someone said, the list is not in any order).

by the same token, i am amazed at the accolades always thrown at Vancouver. granted, ive never been there, but have seen enough footage of its skyline - the city is ugly and overbuilt. i havent seen anything (save for the distant mountains) that is attractive of that place. it looks like someone went crazy on sim city and went 'ultra-high density', with no regards to symmetry or order.


but alas - this wonderful city of ours is, in my mind, one of the best in north america! how soon until we are in the same breath as San Francisco, toronto, boston....?
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:56 AM
 
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Yeah, Rome is an amazing city, but I wouldn't call it "pretty" either--although there are many Italian cities I do think are extremely pretty.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:44 AM
 
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Yeah, Rome is an amazing city, but I wouldn't call it "pretty" either--although there are many Italian cities I do think are extremely pretty.
in addition to the women (and men) and historical sites, culture is also a reason why rome is so enjoyable. it's big enough not to be overwhemled by tourists in the way florence and venice are. from a geographical standpoint, naples is pretter than any of those other places.

Pittsburgh (or rather residents, current and future)has much work to do on the ground level but it has an unusual (esp in this country) natural set up. on the other hand...
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Far be it from a Philadelphian to criticize any other city's urban waterfront, but Cincinnati's appears to have been devised by the architect of Riverfront and Veterans Stadiums on a bad day.
The Cincinnati shoreline is an endless ribbon of concrete - pavement, the foundations to unfinished buildings, the foundations to finished buildings.
At night, from the Roebling Suspension Bridge, you can see the fires of encamped homeless on the shore. Some homeless also live on the bridge, which can enliven a late-night walk to Kentucky.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:48 AM
 
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As a Cincinnatian by birth, that article makes me a little stabby. It also makes me want some goetta, which is a breakfast food, no matter what that author says.
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:16 AM
 
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My favorite Italian city (so far, at least--I certainly haven't visited them all) is actually Siena--talk about pretty, and it is not as overwhelmed with tourists as Florence, particularly if you stay overnight.

Anyway, Pittsburgh's natural setting is indeed a huge asset when it comes to prettiness. The combination of hills, rivers, and bridges framing Downtown in particular are really lovely.
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:16 AM
 
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As a Cincinnatian by birth, that article makes me a little stabby. It also makes me want some goetta, which is a breakfast food, no matter what that author says.
generally the article isn't very good (I'm sure someone has put scrapple on a pizza and there's nothing wrong with cinnamon in meat sauce-though I'd expect no more from a fitzpatrick) but it does paint a very different picture of cincinatti than the one often painted of pittsburgh, homeless OB the bridge? never seen that on clemente. campfires on the waterfront near PNC? never seen that either. cincinnat is often compared to pittsburgh on this site but it would seem there's a big difference. just saying, while there's much work to be doneat street level, there's less than there is in cincy.
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:25 AM
 
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Honestly, I haven't been in downtown Cincinnati in years, but it was never my impression that the homeless problem was any worse than it is in Pittsburgh. Are there homeless encampments under some bridges and overpasses? Pittsburgh has that, too. It's not anywhere near Portland or San Francisco in terms of street people.
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:41 AM
 
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Honestly, I haven't been in downtown Cincinnati in years, but it was never my impression that the homeless problem was any worse than it is in Pittsburgh. Are there homeless encampments under some bridges and overpasses? Pittsburgh has that, too. It's not anywhere near Portland or San Francisco in terms of street people.
itmay well be that the location is different, that's all, and perhaps in a bad way in terms of visitors. San Francisco is notorious with regards to that, partially owing to the generous welfare they are known for and probably owing to the weather. anyway, I don't have data on homelessness but the crime rate is higher.
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:18 AM
 
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in addition to the women (and men) and historical sites, culture is also a reason why rome is so enjoyable. it's big enough not to be overwhemled by tourists in the way florence and venice are...

wait - we're talking about 'the eternal city', or rome, GEORGIA??
i m certainly not bashing rome, but i disagree on the accented items above.
i really dont think the women are that notable. hot women tend to stick with hot women, regardless of what country you are in. from that, a tourist might gather that roman donne are so amazing, when actually they are taking note of a few grouped women that have caught their attention. in my time in rome, i thought most were just gross with those obnoxious cigarettes that smell like paint.

'not overwhelmed by tourists'? well, if you get off the beaten path, yea, you can get away from the throngs of tourists, but by late october, i wondered when they would finally go away.
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:25 AM
 
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wait - we're talking about 'the eternal city', or rome, GEORGIA??
i m certainly not bashing rome, but i disagree on the accented items above.
i really dont think the women are that notable. hot women tend to stick with hot women, regardless of what country you are in. from that, a tourist might gather that roman donne are so amazing, when actually they are taking note of a few grouped women that have caught their attention. in my time in rome, i thought most were just gross with those obnoxious cigarettes that smell like paint.

'not overwhelmed by tourists'? well, if you get off the beaten path, yea, you can get away from the throngs of tourists, but by late october, i wondered when they would finally go away.
can't agree at all, we saw many beautiful women. florence and venice are basically tourist attractions (real world disneylands)rather than functioning cities. rome is still a city where people go about their business. "off the beaten tourist path" maybe, but it's not nearly as hard to do in rome as in those other places. naples really is off the beaten path. we hardly found anyone who spoke english and were forced to use our entertaining italian.
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