HOW COVID-19 KILLS - Why We Can't Save You (public transportation, health)

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by lostsoul359

Well, yes because it is airborne. The 6 feet rule expanded to 30 feet but if it is now 30 could it be 50 next week or 100 feet in 1 month. No, I am not at high risk. I am also a Loner. But I am too young to die.

And no one seems to know what the procedures are otherwise things would not be closed like they are.

Are we that unhygienic? Or is it that we just cannot stay that far away from one another?

I am a single Italian female and I live alone and work alone from home. I have 2 cats not kids and my family has all passed away. I am also divorced. Just wanted to clear up the fact that I am a LONER. Have my will and Living Trust finished already at 48 yo. I have 1 friend who lives in a different state. She is busy with her kids so I try not to bother her.

Sorry if my questions seem stupid or redundant

It’s airborne so you’ve answered your own questions.

Do people get the flu because they’re unhygienic?

[Knepper3]

I think some can't stay away, others chose not to but maybe out of desperation. Its easy to shelter at home when you know you can pay your bills and have food to eat. I've not heard anyone say 30 ft though. 6 feet and use common sense as in don't do a monster sneeze pointing up in the air w/ no cover. I don't know if it is technically airborne but it can stay suspended in the air (like water droplets) for a certain period of time. I dont think if it was on a counter it is also in the air but that I'm not sure. I think yes we are that unhygenic too though, different generations were taught different things, I dont think I'll ever be able to break the habit of covering my mouth w/ my hand when I clear my throat or something.

[Knepper3]

Originally Posted by erieguy

It’s airborne so you’ve answered your own questions.

Do people get the flu because they’re unhygienic?

Yeah I think kinda, share drinks or other things. Touch a million things and their face. I know my wife washes her hands a million times but I tend to wash them when they are dirty or have been touching something I know was gross.

[lostsoul359]

Originally Posted by erieguy

It’s airborne so you’ve answered your own questions.

Do people get the flu because they’re unhygienic?

I do not know. I do not get the flu.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Knepper3

Yeah I think kinda, share drinks or other things. Touch a million things and their face. I know my wife washes her hands a million times but I tend to wash them when they are dirty or have been touching something I know was gross.

Aside from one’s immune system or vaccination, pretty sure there’s nothing that can be done to keep from getting something that’s able to be caught via airborne.

[Kippy]

I'll save you all 37 minutes: read up on cytokine storms.

Here is a NYT article about it from today that explains it pretty well: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/h...ne-system.html

It has been theorized that when a young person with a healthy immune system and no comorbidities dies from COVID-19, it is due to a cytokine storm. It is also believed that this is why the Spanish Flu was so devastating to the young and otherwise healthy. The immune system goes into such overdrive, you basically drown in your own blood and fluids. It is possible that drugs that suppress the immune system, such as Hydroxychloroquine, are effective at combating this COVID-19 complication.

Several articles I have read about it claim that many doctors are unaware of the cytokine storm; however, I would like to think that is not the case. Either way, read up about it so you can be an advocate for yourself or a loved one, if need be. Bookmark some resources and save the names of drugs that can be used against it, just in case you ever find yourself in a situation where you need to educate a medical professional about it.

If admitted to a hospital, one's goal should be to improve before ever needing to be hooked up to a ventilator. There has been so much focus on acquiring ventilators; however, the mortality rate for those who require one is frightening. Hopefully, some of the drug therapies they are using will yield some positive results and can be rolled out en masse.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by lostsoul359

I do not know. I do not get the flu.

I didn’t ask if you got the flu, but if you don’t know the answer it’s probably best you stay inside forever.

[Knepper3]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Aside from one’s immune system or vaccination, pretty sure there’s nothing that can be done to keep from getting something that’s able to be caught via airborne.

IDK, I mean I'm not super social so maybe I social distance in life anyway. I feel like though if you use better hygene and wash after touching public things you reduce your risks. I also don't know, up until this year I've gotten sick about 2 times in 20 years that I remember. This year 2 times, Dec-Jan then Mid Feb which I think was this.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Knepper3

IDK, I mean I'm not super social so maybe I social distance in life anyway. I feel like though if you use better hygene and wash after touching public things you reduce your risks. I also don't know, up until this year I've gotten sick about 2 times in 20 years that I remember. This year 2 times, Dec-Jan then Mid Feb which I think was this.

You really think better hygiene is going to keep you from getting the flu or an airborne disease?

I’d wager you have a great immune system.

[sealie]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Aside from one’s immune system or vaccination, pretty sure there’s nothing that can be done to keep from getting something that’s able to be caught via airborne.

The New England Journal of Medicine claims it may stay in the air for half an hour and I think on steel or plastic for two or three days. I think your odds are decidedly better if you stay home, limit your grocery trips to every other week, and do everything the CDC asks people to do, but you can’t do much about people who think they’re smarter than the epidemiologists.