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Well apparently some of your GOP representatives believe they were forced into it....
They have an interesting understanding of what the definition of "Forced" is. They often throw it around: "Frank 'forced' the banks to give loans to people who couldn't afford it" (Which of course is patently false and also ignoring that he was the minority party at that time-but hey lets not let facts get in the way.)
Their buzzwords would really be good for a laugh if it weren't so inflammatory and ultimately dangerous.
They have an interesting understanding of what the definition of "Forced" is. They often throw it around: "Frank 'forced' the banks to give loans to people who couldn't afford it" (Which of course is patently false and also ignoring that he was the minority party at that time-but hey lets not let facts get in the way.)
Their buzzwords would really be good for a laugh if it weren't so inflammatory and ultimately dangerous.
Are you going to pretend the government cant withhold permission for businesses to conduct business if they dont comply with governmental mandates?
And? Again, either they are FORCED to give the money up, which there is no legal justification to do, or they did it because they are following their MORAL obligation. WHICH IS IT? Moral one, or they were forced to?
They knew they had no choice. For starters it would have been a PR disaster if they told the govt to f off. If they told the govt to screw off the chances of them ever being allowed to work in the U.S ever again would have probably been zero.
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They indeed had a choice.. What makes you think they didnt have a choice to tell the government to get lost and comply with the LEGAL limits of $75M that you guys all whined about last week existed?
Hmm thats interesting because neither Bachmann or Barton feel BP had a choice in the matter, and thats what they are complaining about
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Neither Barton, nor Bachmann, (nor anyone else for that matter) has said Bp shouldnt pay for this.. NO ONE.. Where on gods earth do you liberals keep coming up with these lies? But if you are going to DEMAND, (which you admit BP had no choice) that BP put up $20B into escrow, this again brings me back to .. WHY DIDNT THEY? Where is the LEGAL obligation to do so? Hell, they didnt even have a moral obligation to escrow $20B, let alone a legal one..
BP caused massive amounts of damage. They should be forced to pay for that damage, Bachmann and Barton think we should not force them to do so.
Question: If you had an accident in which you (and other parties) could be found liable - would you provide money to be put into a fund to help cleanup damaged property and/or to provide financial aid to people that may have been damaged by the accident before it was determined legally who [all] is liable?
They knew they had no choice. For starters it would have been a PR disaster if they told the govt to f off. If they told the govt to screw off the chances of them ever being allowed to work in the U.S ever again would have probably been zero.
The government is under long term contracts to provide access to BP to oil wells.. You couldnt stop buying their oil if you wanted to..
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Hmm thats interesting because neither Bachmann or Barton feel BP had a choice in the matter, and thats what they are complaining about
So did they, or did they not have a choice? Your all over the board on this...
Again, if they DIDNT have a choice, then I ask you why didnt they? Under what LEGAL authority did they NOT have a choice.. and if they did have a choice, but chose to do the right thing.. Why are you liberals all over them for holding up to their responsibilities when they didnt have to?
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BP caused massive amounts of damage. They should be forced to pay for that damage, Bachmann and Barton think we should not force them to do so.
WRONG.. NO ONE has made such statements.. I often wonder whats in some of your heads. Is there a comprehension issue with liberals? There is a difference between BP NOT paying, and BP being FORCED to escrow money to pay, when they ALREADY WERE paying.
Question: If you had an accident in which you (and other parties) could be found liable - would you provide money to be put into a fund to help cleanup damaged property and/or to provide financial aid to people that may have been damaged by the accident before it was determined legally who [all] is liable?
The error with your question is that BP CANT be found liable... The law limits their damages to $75M.. which they have already exceeded in paying out..
The error with your question is that BP CANT be found liable... The law limits their damages to $75M.. which they have already exceeded in paying out..
That's not necessarily true, but nevertheless forget about the limit and answer the question...
Question: If you had an accident in which you (and other parties) could be found liable - would you provide money to be put into a fund to help cleanup damaged property and/or to provide financial aid to people that may have been damaged by the accident before it was determined legally who [all] is liable?
The error with your question is that BP CANT be found liable... The law limits their damages to $75M.. which they have already exceeded in paying out..
Any and all parties that are determined to be at fault, which MOST DEFINITELY includes the MMS (which is our Federal Government a.k.a Taxpayers)! BP is not the only company/agency at fault here. And they're stupid to not demand that all other potentially liable companies/agencies put up a like-amount of money into the fund.
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