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Old 06-23-2010, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Given what has been said about the president and his wife I think we know whose opinion has the ring of truth. I am not one of those who believes that racism ended when Obama was elected. I'm happy for you that you can surround yourself with happy visions of the way life should be. Rock on.

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Racism ended?

When was the last time we elected a junior senator with zero executive experience president even before the end of his first-term?
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Question huh?

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Blah, blah, blah,...


What sets us apart from "tin horn dictatorships" is the oath every military officer and enlistee takes to protect and uphold the Constitution.

No it isn't.

What "sets us apart" is the civilian control of the military by a Commander in Chief through a hierarchical organizational structure that has stood the test of time and protected this Nation when almost every other has fallen to coups and takeover.

Our strength lies in control of the military via the President who serves the will of the people.
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I would like to hear some suggestions from you complainers about how you would win the war in Afghanistan. Start with:

Define winning. What would a win look like?

How would you win?

How much would it cost? How many Lives and how much money?

Who would pay for the war? Bankers, Oil companies, the US public?

Just what would a victory in Afghanistan be worth to each of you?

Would you be willing to go fight for a victory in Afghanistan or are you too busy making a fortune at home?
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:02 AM
 
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I would rather McChrystal resign than get fired. He disagrees with this Administration pulling out of Afghanistan next year. So this is a perfect way to ride into the sunset.

I'm just tired of people who disagrees with the President later apologizing for their comments. You would think they would realize that nowadays in the media, your words are magnified 7 fold. I have never seen an administration come under attack like this administration has.

1. McChrystal - Total disrespect of the Commander and Chief.

2. Joe Barton - Apologizing to BP.

3. Joe Wilson - You Lie.

4. Glen Beck - Making fun of his (Obama's) kids.

5. Harry Reid - Light Skinned.

6. Rusty Depass - Called his wife an Ape.

7. Jesse Jackson - Wanted to cut off his balls.

I'm sure many more people will be apologizing soon.


The reason that this administration is "under attack" is the fact that the administration appears to be "attacking" the US people they are supposed to serve and have operated in a corrupt, self serving manner.

1. No support for Arizona law to control illegals and actually threatening to sue. Obama has abandoned the American people in favor of illegals.

2. Telling a sitting US senator that the administration will not enforce immigration laws and the border, so that politicians might "support" Obama's plan to legalize illegals.

3. Threatening an "executive order" to grant amnesty to illegals, subverting the congress and senate.

4. Interfering with a US election and attempting to bribe Sestak

5. Adding $3.2 trillion in debt though Obamacare to a national debt which cannot take any more. We need cuts in spending, not more spending.

6. Blowing $1 trillion on a failed "stimulus", which was essentially a giant liberal pork program that created no jobs

7. Failure to regulate off shore oil drilling safety and failure to manage the spill in a competent fashion, while devoting time in that same period to Paul McCartney, the Duke basketball team, and golf.

8. "Laying off" 30,000 oil workers in the Gulf to soothe his hurt feelings over his incompetence in managing the spill

9. Paying off his master, George Soros, by granting $2 billion in support for Brazilian offshore drilling.

10. Failure to control the national debt at all by controlling spending, ensuring our insolvency or severe austerity measures on the part of the next president who will be forced to clean up after Obama.

11. Allowing the Iranians to secure the bomb.



Gee..................................... what is not to like?


I guess the libs, being fond of fascism, no longer want ANY criticism of thier Fuhrer, as dissent and questioning are no longer allowed in America. Some day the libs may wake up from thier trance and realize they have been on the side of evil and suppression of freedom- the antithesis of what "liberal" used to mean. Liberal now means Fascist.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:08 AM
 
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That would be a treasonous offense and would make Mac no better than the Taliban if that were indeed the case.

He's not and that's not the case. He's a weasel and is looking to quite after he failed to produce any results from a strategic effort he pushed, that was given to him by his predecessors.
Didn't Obama deny him the troops he NEEDED for his "strategic effort"?
Not sure of the nbrs but something like 50,000 short?
As he watches his guys and our children being blown up over there, coming home with no arms or legs and this joke of a president playing golf and singing with the stars.
Obama had no time to do the homework when meeting with the General, to busy with his social life, gag..
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I would like to hear some suggestions from you complainers about how you would win the war in Afghanistan. Start with:

Define winning. What would a win look like?

How would you win?

How much would it cost? How many Lives and how much money?

Who would pay for the war? Bankers, Oil companies, the US public?

Just what would a victory in Afghanistan be worth to each of you?

Would you be willing to go fight for a victory in Afghanistan or are you too busy making a fortune at home?
Since they have found at least a trillion dollars worth of mineral reserves, we can help them get started on the extraction of the minerals and this will help them get on their feet and start developing their country. When people realize there are well paying jobs in the mining industry they'll trade their AKs for shovels.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:15 AM
 
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It's pretty clear that McCrystal isn't getting the job done. Probably time to come home. Nation building is futile.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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Didn't Obama deny him the troops he NEEDED for his "strategic effort"?
Not sure of the nbrs but something like 50,000 short?
As he watches his guys and our children being blown up over there, coming home with no arms or legs and this joke of a president playing golf and singing with the stars.
Obama had no time to do the homework when meeting with the General, to busy with his social life, gag..
It's been documented that Obama pretty much followed all of the recommendations of General McChrystal.
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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F_J - Don't bet on Afghanis wanting or getting any mining jobs. Working 7 to 7 for someone else is not in their culture.

IMHO McCrystal was not getting the job done because the job, if defined as nation building, simply cannot be done. Afghanistan is not a nation it is a collection of very conservative clans and tribes.

So back to my previous post. Anyone care to answer?
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Old 06-23-2010, 07:27 AM
 
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I suggest that you take off time on these forums and read Doris Kerns Goodwin's "Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln" for a fresh perspective about strengths and weaknesses.
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His weakness is easy. The disregard for the Constitution causing the needless deaths of over 600000 Americans.
So your definition of weakness is to count number of casulties in a war? If yo think Lincoln is weak, lord knows what you think of the leaders who challenged Hitler.. Why they must have been cowards..
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