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So cut everyone off now? People are working on a jobs policy, granted it's taking entirely too much time but it is being worked on. Stimulus is stimulus you can't tell me there isn't a bunch of small business' out there hanging by a thread.
I remember you. My company IS hiring for security guards. As the economy worsens security work is booming. Come work for us. The starting pay is $8.25 an hour. It is crap pay but at least you will be working. PM me for information.
Agreed. I have to give the Democrats credit for attempting to reach across the aisle, they even cut the bill in half just about in order to do so. However, at this point the GOP is showing that they simply are refusing to be even remotely bi-partisan. It would be highly unusual to use reconciliation in this manner, which is likely why the Dems haven't done so, but at this point they should.
Why don't you think the Dems will agree to any cuts ?
Uphold the PayGo they passed.
Why not provide the cuts to balance out the extended unemployment ?
Ive posted about this in the unemployed section of city data. I dont want to get into who is to blame, but for the folks who are anti-unemployment, How can our gov. be OK with denying hardworking folks who through no fault of their own got laid off, yet we can find money for Haiti or an unwinnable war?
I recently took 2 college educated friends to social services for help. Its pathetic also how many Americans are against the unemployed in general. These people are just like you yet you tell them to F off, just like our gov.
The good old USA....People (your supposed 'Fellow Americans') hate you if you lose your job (because of those in power) and so does your gov., gotta love it.
The "Nuclear" option that you speak of is a method of last resort, and is something that the DEM's do not wish to use, in order to attempt to at least continue with the basis of what the Senate is supposed to be in terms of debate and collegiality.
I personally think they should use it. However, I want to destroy the GOP and most of everything it stands for, and don't really care what I have to do, in order to accomplish that goal. The Democratic Party in the Senate at least want to attempt to continue to work and reach across the aisle in a level of bi-partisanship and tradition of the Senate reaching back to the foundation of our country.
Go figure.
My way or the highway is not reaching across party lines.
For the 373,291,921 time they are not expanding benefits beyond the 99 weeks. A tier system exists, based on when you were laid off. The tier system has different cutoff dates, what was voted on was to extend those cutoff dates further.
Government CANNOT create jobs..ok ?
Private companies create jobs. No job policy coming out of DC will get companies to hire 10 million unemployed..ok ?
WAKE UP...we're in year 3 of this "recession".
How about the privatization of police/fire depts? this is already being talked about within CA. Public works projects,tax incentives for first time business owners....
Get off the snooze button! and worry about your own un-security job! LOL
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Originally Posted by BentBow
Government can only create government jobs. Don't get your hopes too high.
The only way the federal government can stimulate the economy, is to get the hell out of the way, and quit sucking it all up, because they know better than you and me.
Refer to above post.
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Originally Posted by BentBow
Lets put it terms they can understand...
Compare it to blowing through an 8 ball of Coke. You spent a lot of cash on a little stimulation for a short time, and now your more broke than before you thought you had to get all tooted up.
You must be on the same bandwagon as that other clown wanting to drug test the unemployed.
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Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal
If 99 weeks isn't enough how long is? Tell us since you are the loudest whiner of the teat being taken away, please.
I've been off the teat Mr. Mogal, fact of the matter is the only economy that relates to our current situation was 80 years ago. UE should continue until there is a jobs policy in effect or unemployment rates drop. Our government cannot get away with bailing out Wall St and not Main St!
I have that movie and watched it a few months ago. Thanks for the snide encouragement Mr. Mogul. Maybe one day I can be like you, oh wait I prefer to be conscious
I remember you. My company IS hiring for security guards. As the economy worsens security work is booming. Come work for us. The starting pay is $8.25 an hour. It is crap pay but at least you will be working. PM me for information.
Despite your snide offer I cannot afford to move and am losing my car next month.
Looks like the republicans in the Senate have voted against the unemployment benefits for those who are in need. The 57-41 vote needed only three more votes from the republican side to get a total of 60 - to stop a GOP filibuster.
I can't help but think this is going to seem like a joke compared to where we're headed with the national debt. If anyone thinks this is a serious problem, then they have their heads in the sand about what the US is about to face in the next few years. Our national debt is about to double in just 4 YEARS!!! And that's using the government's own statistics!!!!!!!! We're headed for: 1. a radical cutback in government spending or 2. hyperinflation or 3. an debt default.
All 3 scenarios are going to make 2008-09 look like a walk in the park, but #1 is the least bad option.
Agreed. I have to give the Democrats credit for attempting to reach across the aisle, they even cut the bill in half just about in order to do so. However, at this point the GOP is showing that they simply are refusing to be even remotely bi-partisan. It would be highly unusual to use reconciliation in this manner, which is likely why the Dems haven't done so, but at this point they should.
Actually they couldn't use reconciliation for this. That can only be used for direct budget items, not emergency items, and even then, only for things that are either deficit neutral or deficit reduction. They also can't change procedural rules except at the beginning of a session. (The Court confirmation process where the "Nuclear Option" was bandied about is a different situation).
In terms of unemployment benefits, I'm sorry 99 weeks is way way too long. We are in effect sponsoring a European / Australian style dole. If after 6 months or perhaps even to a year in a very high unemployment time, if you haven't found a job in your specialty, if you have modern skills, move to a place where they can be used. If not, time to go to McDonalds or WalMart or whatever and get used to your new standard of living. Especially if you are blue collar, that 50k per year factory job is never coming back.
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Come work for us. The starting pay is $8.25 an hour. It is crap pay but at least you will be working. PM me for information.
