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Yea... Dems aren't doing much here to help. Looks like the republicans screwed it up soo bad in the last term that even the dems can't fix it. Only time will tell.
Still running with that?
The Democrats can't fix anything. We've had this boy in the White House for less than 2 years are his approval is far lower than President Bush's. The fact is that the populace has just remembered why the GOP is the party that should be in power (and will capture the House in a few months).
Right now party affiliation is at a record low for the Dems - I'd start looking at throwing your captain overboard before blaming those have been effectively silenced for 4 years.
And if you were curious, the GOP was ready to agree to this - we just want to stop the fiscal train wreck.
The Democrats simply desire to drive America off a cliff in order to establish their new Socialist government with the pieces of this once great nation - until they ruin it.
Read clearly. The Republicans simply don't want to waste money, they clearly had not problem with spending the money out of previously appropriated funds -- but of course we all know that the Democrats couldn't care less about deficits.
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The Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, offered on Thursday to agree to a one-month extension of jobless benefits using unspent money from last year’s economic stimulus program. Democrats rejected that proposal.
This thread would be more aptly titled "Democrats again reject all GOP proposals to extent aid to unemployed."
If I had my way, this guy wouldn't be in the house. I don't understand how he is MY captain. I never said I liked Obama. All I said was that the 8 years prior were a disaster for this country.
What we need now is a way to get the unemployed to stop looking for nonexistent jobs and start new businesses and create new jobs.
Verona,I also have a 4 year degree as well as an MBA so what. Due to downsizing, I was laid off in June of 2008. I also had a six digit income at the time of my layoff. I'm 60 years old, have sent out 165 resumes for positions that I'm more than qualified for and have had more than 35 interviews. I have also dumbied down my resume this being the 4th time. I recently exhausted all my benefits (All 4 Tiers) or 99 weeks. Fortunately, I was in fact hired for a position after all this time and start on Monday. What is the position you ask? The position is that of a full time janitor in a nursing home and because of my experiance (my education) they're starting me at $18.00 an hour. My other offer prior to this one was that of a bagger at a local super market. So don't talk to me about sacrifice and believe me I would'nt want anyone doing what I'm doing and for those out there that have exhausted all benefits and are still unemployed, believe me I feel for you all. Hang in there and best of luck to all of you.
Congratulations on the new job. $18 an hour is nothing to sneeze at, especially in these tough times.
Uhh, that happened. The Democrats control the two political chambers. This is on the Democrats. You can cry all you want about the GOP not regulating enough to real in lousy loans, but they tried, and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd dealt to stop the GOP from enacting legislation that would have scaled back the CRA. If it wasn't for the CRA so many bad loans wouldn't have been made.
And for your information, right now for something to be "blocked" it needs to be pretty unpopular, the Democrats have 59 votes. All they need is to flip one of the 3 RINOs.
I'm proud that the Congress is deciding to finally be fiscally sane (at least to a very small degree). The debt that we were accruing for people who don't care to find a job is ridiculous.
Right now you have a 99 week safety net, if that's not enough, nothing is. The problem is that the government is trying to make people complacent, trying to make them rely on their hand. If your government controls your food, your shelter, your safety, you are putty in their hands.
I'll admit, the Democrats have done a good job reminding people of this. This make the more idiotic amongst them automatically vote for the Democrats because "the Republicans will take my house away."
About these riots, I don't think that it will happen. It almost never does until morons start inciting them... I say it's a good idea, show the average American taxpayer the dependence the government has nurtured - to the extent that some riot when they are cut off.
You know what happens then? The majority decides to only elect politicians that support cutting off welfare (in the form of unemployment) to those who burn their government owned house down when they throw a fit because they don't want to work, but want to get paid to work.
Right now there is a huge incentive not to work, it's called a 99 week holiday - and it's paid! If this didn't exist people would actually be trying to find work, and even though it might not be easy it would reduce the long-term unemployed and thus increase the flow of capital, ease credit, and increase the GDP - eventually lower unemployment.
So if you actually believe that the GOP single handed block even more welfare to those who don't want to work, and if you actually believe that they were wrong, I'll say that we'll see in November. I personally can't wait to see Nancy Pelosi cry on TV as she hands the gavel over to John Boehner, and as we see Sharon Angle take the place of Harry Reid.
You had your 4 years of spending like a drunken sailor, now the GOP will clean up the mess. Like any drug it'll be tough for those on welfare to get off, but if you've been on unemployment for more than 99 weeks you need to be cut off. You're hurting the taxpayer, the next generation, and worst of all yourself.
As usual your clueless following blindly your GOP and Bush who put us in this mess. lol
Uhh, that happened. The Democrats control the two political chambers. This is on the Democrats. You can cry all you want about the GOP not regulating enough to real in lousy loans, but they tried, and Barney Frank and Chris Dodd dealt to stop the GOP from enacting legislation that would have scaled back the CRA. If it wasn't for the CRA so many bad loans wouldn't have been made.
And for your information, right now for something to be "blocked" it needs to be pretty unpopular, the Democrats have 59 votes. All they need is to flip one of the 3 RINOs.
I'm proud that the Congress is deciding to finally be fiscally sane (at least to a very small degree). The debt that we were accruing for people who don't care to find a job is ridiculous.
Right now you have a 99 week safety net, if that's not enough, nothing is. The problem is that the government is trying to make people complacent, trying to make them rely on their hand. If your government controls your food, your shelter, your safety, you are putty in their hands.
I'll admit, the Democrats have done a good job reminding people of this. This make the more idiotic amongst them automatically vote for the Democrats because "the Republicans will take my house away."
About these riots, I don't think that it will happen. It almost never does until morons start inciting them... I say it's a good idea, show the average American taxpayer the dependence the government has nurtured - to the extent that some riot when they are cut off.
You know what happens then? The majority decides to only elect politicians that support cutting off welfare (in the form of unemployment) to those who burn their government owned house down when they throw a fit because they don't want to work, but want to get paid to work.
Right now there is a huge incentive not to work, it's called a 99 week holiday - and it's paid! If this didn't exist people would actually be trying to find work, and even though it might not be easy it would reduce the long-term unemployed and thus increase the flow of capital, ease credit, and increase the GDP - eventually lower unemployment.
So if you actually believe that the GOP single handed block even more welfare to those who don't want to work, and if you actually believe that they were wrong, I'll say that we'll see in November. I personally can't wait to see Nancy Pelosi cry on TV as she hands the gavel over to John Boehner, and as we see Sharon Angle take the place of Harry Reid.
You had your 4 years of spending like a drunken sailor, now the GOP will clean up the mess. Like any drug it'll be tough for those on welfare to get off, but if you've been on unemployment for more than 99 weeks you need to be cut off. You're hurting the taxpayer, the next generation, and worst of all yourself.
This is such BS. Let's set the record on some of this straight:
"The debt that we were accruing for people who don't care to find a job is ridiculous. "
At it's final iteration the debt being added is 0.1% of last year's deficit. That's right, one-tenth of 1 freaking percent to keep people from being homeless! This is about politics, not the debt.
"Right now you have a 99 week safety net, if that's not enough, nothing is."
I actually agree with you on this, but the problem is as it is right now, many people instead were told they have a 99 week safety net and suddenly had it completely pulled from them at nowhere near 99 weeks with little if any warning. I agree it has to end sometime but it should be with an extension so people don't think they have a safety net and a week later it's completely gone and they have no income to speak of out of the blue.
"Right now there is a huge incentive not to work, it's called a 99 week holiday - and it's paid! If this didn't exist people would actually be trying to find work"
To some extent, the purpose of UI is to give people a reasonable time (and yes, I think 99 weeks is more than fine) to not just take any low-level job and have a "race to the bottom" that makes many other people completely "unemployable" who wouldn't be otherwise. How about people for whom UI covers their every basic expense and can't afford "retraining"? How about the people who can't find work because there's no jobs in their field and they're considered "overqualfied" for every simple low-level job no matter how hard they're willing to work at it? And employers who are openly refusing to hire any of the unemployed? There are many people, especially over about 50 or so, that are "unemployable" right now and will be for a long time. Should they just die off for the younger generation, I bet you think that........
"About these riots, I don't think that it will happen. It almost never does until morons start inciting them... I say it's a good idea"
Wait until one of these desperate "morons" decides to try and kill a Senator or the President (oh wait, the "moron" who posted this to begin with probably thinks that's a good idea too!) or commits an act of domestic terrorism like blow up a Federal building a la OKC 1995......riots are nothing!
"You had your 4 years of spending like a drunken sailor, now the GOP will clean up the mess"
Gee, that means this started with G.W. Bush, not Obama And before 2000 we started to run SURPLUSES under a Democratic President. I bet the Republicans wouldn't cry "deficit" to respond to a "second 9/11" if God-forbid that happened right now. Well this is an "emergency" too! Yes, 99 weeks is enough in my view too but telling people they have a safety net and completely pulling it mid-stream with no warning is not!
Another several trillion dollars for a new stimulus wouldn't work anyhow. The problem is jobs - and you can try to politicize this issue to keep your beloved party in power forever but the problem is that party is doing nothing to bring back jobs for the American people. Take a look at the root problems - where the jobs went. Bandaids like government handouts don't address the problems.
Giving people temporary hand outs is not going to fix this. People need permanent solutions not a loan. In the end, when you take out a loan (and stimulus and extended benefits are loans because we have to pay them back through higher taxes in the future) you just end up hungry and in debt instead of just hungry.
I don't know what the solution is but I do know that the current administration is doing nothing to fix this. I don't care whose fault it is. We just need people in power who can fix it. Unfortunately, between now and the next presidential election all I see happening is debt piling up with nothing being fixed.
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$18 an hour is nothing to sneeze at, especially in these tough times.
And before 2000 we started to run SURPLUSES under a Democratic President. I bet the Republicans wouldn't cry "deficit" to respond to a "second 9/11" if God-forbid that happened right now. Well this is an "emergency" too! Yes, 99 weeks is enough in my view too but telling people they have a safety net and completely pulling it mid-stream with no warning is not!
