Will crime be reduced now that the gun ban is overturned (Iraq, generations)
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Crime is a bit like rats. When there is a rat problem, one can of course flood everything with rat poison, but it will cause victims among the innocent, lower the quality of life and be without long-term effects. It is much safer to eliminate what rats like in order to thrive in the first place, but it takes changing one's habits.
Violent criminals like victims who cannot defend or who are less likely to be able to defend themselves. Gun control laws target only law abiding citizens by their very nature. Remove the bureaucratic and/or unConstitutional obsticals of law abiding citizens to procure tools (in this case arms) used for effective self-defense against an attacker wielding lethal force and you lessen the pool of intended victims for violent criminals to target.
I have my long guns and shotguns(even a shorty for home protection), but the only thing a pistol is good for, is to get you in trouble.
I always carry many weapons, but nothing man made, unless you want to include my belt.
If a thief broke into my home, he would never find my guns.
An opinion, not a fact. Not even in the ballpark of being truthful either. My shotgun and rifle just don't fit in my purse holster. I';m not in the habit of getting into trouble and if I were several states would not be willing to issue me a CCW license.
If pistols are only for getting one into trouble why would it be a matter of policy for law enforcement to wear side arms?
Violent criminals like victims who cannot defend or who are less likely to be able to defend themselves. Gun control laws target only law abiding citizens by their very nature. Remove the bureaucratic and/or unConstitutional obsticals of law abiding citizens to procure tools (in this case arms) used for effective self-defense against an attacker wielding lethal force and you lessen the pool of intended victims for violent criminals to target.
Sure, but only because you already have such a mess in your cities, way too many guns already, guns that may have belonged to law-abiding citizens some time ago.
And let's face it, a couple of people might shoot a couple of criminals, but crime won't go away, it will be redirected, turning against wives and children etc. It is like with castration, it won't turn a criminal into a good person, he will just change the type of crime.
The only way to solve that mess is by creating a more egalitarian, caring society where nobody feels left outside, unwanted and obsolete.
There are areas in Spain where they have 40% unemployment among the young, yet there is little violent crime. I guess it has to do with society, there is little anonymity, people walk and talk a lot, which reduces the likelihood of people losing it. Aggression probably exists in all humans, but somehow culture has a huge influence on the way it is dealt with.
I think violent crime is largely an urban problem. Vermont probably has no big cities with lots of inequality etc. I think it is quite safe in rural Illinois, too.
OK, just looked it up, Burlington is the biggest city in Vermont, population of roughly 39k
Then to use an example closer to you, how about Switzerland? They require the ownership of firearms, compared to most countries they have few restrictions on citizens buying their own private firearms, they're absolutely swimming in guns, and they certainly have some dense urban centers full of guns...and a low crime rate.
Then to use an example closer to you, how about Switzerland? They require the ownership of firearms, compared to most countries they have few restrictions on citizens buying their own private firearms, they're absolutely swimming in guns, and they certainly have some dense urban centers full of guns...and a low crime rate.
MYTH: People in Switzerland are heavily armed. There is an assault weapon in every Swiss home.
TRUTH: It's true that Swiss soldiers are required to keep their assault rifles at home. How big is the Swiss Army? 400,000 (source). There are about 3 million Swiss households (source- PDF file). 400,000/3,000,000= 0.133. Therefore, there is a military assault rifle in about 13% of Swiss homes. Switzerland also has rather strict gun control laws. In Switzerland a permit is required in order to purchase a weapon (The permit shows that you are at least 18 and don't have a criminal record). A permit is also required to carrry a weapon. Such a permit is mostly issued to people who work in security-type occupations. To obtain this permit, you have to demonstrate that you need to carry a weapon and that you know how to handle a gun safely and have knowledge of the law regarding firearms use (source). Soldiers in the Swiss Army are required to store their military weapons at home under lock and key and to undergo regular training. Strict gun laws in Switzerland minimize the dangers of gun ownership. However, such dangers can not be completely eliminated as illustrated by the case of Friedrich Leibacher who rushed into a session of parliament in the Swiss town of Zug. He used his Swiss Army assault rifle and a grenade to murder fourteen people. Eleven of these people were lawmakers (source) .
Neuling is a European gun-banner wishing to impose his beliefs upon Americans who have a Constitution that uniquely affirms rights his own country's Constitution has failed to do. Logic and a historical perspective on this subject as it applies to the US eldudes him/her.
The American experience is not that of the Eurpean experience. To compare either is apples and oranges at best. I choose freedom over federally regulated security. YMMV
I hear gun nuts claiming that the reason Chicago has so many shootings because handguns were banned, even though shotguns were not. They have long claimed that overturning the handgun ban would serve as a deterrent and reduce crimes. Wanna bet that the number of murders will not be reduced next year. This will have no impact on gun violence as most of the people getting shot (gangbangers) in Chicago already had guns.
your comment just goes to show that liberals do not remember why gun laws were passed in the 1st place. gun control laws were passed after reconstruction to keep firearms out of the hands of blacks and other minorities. otherwise called jim crow laws.
it seems strange to me that anyone calling themselves a democrat, republican, conservative or liberal would even consider that they are racist against minorites since gun control effect mainly the poor and minorities.
Neuling is a European gun-banner wishing to impose his beliefs upon Americans who have a Constitution that uniquely affirms rights his own country's Constitution has failed to do. Logic and a historical perspective on this subject as it applies to the US eldudes him/her.
The American experience is not that of the Eurpean experience. To compare either is apples and oranges at best. I choose freedom over federally regulated security. YMMV
My opinion doesn't have to do with my being European, after all there are a couple of gun lovers here, too. It is just common sense in my view that the fewer guns that are out there, the better.
Maybe you will change your mind once your child is shot at school or wherever...
My opinion doesn't have to do with my being European, after all there area couple of gun lovers here, too. It is just common sense in my view that there fewer guns that are out there, the better.
Maybe you will change your mind once your child is shot at school or wherever...
you being european has alot to do with it, since most people in your countries over there do not have the freedom to go out anytime they wish and shoot firearms it makes a big difference in your decisions towards firearms.
as far as my daughters being shot at school, all 3 of my daughters know how to shoot safely and the 2 oldest have permits to carry when they go out or to work.
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I think it is quite safe in rural Illinois, too.
