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Old 08-23-2010, 12:03 PM
 
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The actions of an individual is what defines the individual. The individuals race, religion, or sex is not the reason for that individuals actions.
your quote " "blaming" the white man for what the white man has actually historically done"

To single out a race and say that race, (or a religion) is responsible for the actions of some is repugnant.[/QUOTE]

Let's be honest. Your statement is factually correct, however you know as well as I do that an overwhelming majority of the white population gave 100% support to what was done to the indian "savages", the ni@@ers, the wetba@ks, etc.

To suggest that most white Americans were not totally on board with these dark chapters in our history is not factual nor truthful.
This post is as ignorant as they come.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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This is amusing. Obama denounced Wright's comments long ago and disconnected from him, yet folks are still compelled to defend Wright. How did Obama get you to do his dirty work for him?

If you need evidence that Wright holds racist beliefs, look at his NAACP dinner speech. He claimed that Blacks and Whites have different brains.

The belief that skin color determines characteristics and traits is the essence of racism. Do you still defend his racism?
Actually he never claimed Blacks and Whites had different brains, he suggested based on academis and scientic experiments and hypothesis that Blacks and Whites use different sides of their brainds in the learning process.

Did you read the article or you just wanted to throw something out there to muddy the water.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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[quote=reconmark;15591497]
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
The actions of an individual is what defines the individual. The individuals race, religion, or sex is not the reason for that individuals actions.
your quote " "blaming" the white man for what the white man has actually historically done"

To single out a race and say that race, (or a religion) is responsible for the actions of some is repugnant.[/QUOTE]

Let's be honest. Your statement is factually correct, however you know as well as I do that an overwhelming majority of the white population gave 100% support to what was done to the indian "savages", the ni@@ers, the wetba@ks, etc.

To suggest that most white Americans were not totally on board with these dark chapters in our history is not factual nor truthful.
Also, let me ask you something. Did you know that a black man invented slavery in the US? Did you know that a black man went to court to say that he OWNED his Indentured Servant and the government can't take away HIS property? The government was going to set the servant free, but the black owner went to court to keep that from happening. He won, it opened up the slavery debacle in the US. Now what about whites again?
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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This post is as ignorant as they come.
It's only ignorant to the ignorant people who don't know history or choose to ignore historical facts!!
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:07 PM
 
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What does, Stalin or Hitler have to do with the sins, from a very real Christian perspective, with crimes committed by Stalin and Hitler. Perhaps if the sermons context was to preach about the inhumanity of man against man such an omission might be relevant.

So as an "educated" person, which item was false?

Which item is "false"? If you are that far gone, no degree of conversation or persuasion can help you. I think you need to read those statements again.
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Old 08-23-2010, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Also, let me ask you something. Did you know that a black man invented slavery in the US? Did you know that a black man went to court to say that he OWNED his Indentured Servant and the government can't take away HIS property? The government was going to set the servant free, but the black owner went to court to keep that from happening. He won, it opened up the slavery debacle in the US. Now what about whites again?
Your point is what??!!...do you even know what you are trying to say or how silly it sounds!!!

So because a couple of mis-guided ignorant black slave holders attempted to maintain their ownership over their slaves this somehow absolves the south and the white majority of southern whites from propagating, codifying and being the overwhelming benefiters of slavery...uuhhmm you really are trying to suggest that??!!

Please just walk away from it!!
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Old 08-23-2010, 01:16 PM
 
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Your point is what??!!...do you even know what you are trying to say or how silly it sounds!!!

So because a couple of mis-guided ignorant black slave holders attempted to maintain their ownership over their slaves this somehow absolves the south and the white majority of southern whites from propagating, codifying and being the overwhelming benefiters of slavery...uuhhmm you really are trying to suggest that??!!

Please just walk away from it!!

I don't know what that poster meant but no, IMO, that is not what it means.

It means human nature is the same regardless of skin color. The belief that humans of varying skin colors are inherently different -- and that skin color is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities, is racist.
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Old 08-23-2010, 01:24 PM
 
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Your point is what??!!...do you even know what you are trying to say or how silly it sounds!!!

So because a couple of mis-guided ignorant black slave holders attempted to maintain their ownership over their slaves this somehow absolves the south and the white majority of southern whites from propagating, codifying and being the overwhelming benefiters of slavery...uuhhmm you really are trying to suggest that??!!

Please just walk away from it!!
Nope, it was to clear up the misinformation that you have about whites and to put things into perspective. Until you accept that, your racism will not go away.
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Old 08-23-2010, 01:26 PM
 
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I don't know what that poster meant but no, IMO, that is not what it means.

It means human nature is the same regardless of skin color. The belief that humans of varying skin colors are inherently different -- and that skin color is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities, is racist.

You are correct. What I wrote was simply to put the fact that "human nature is the same regardless of skin color." into perspective.
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Old 08-29-2010, 10:51 PM
 
Location: J-ville, FL
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I don't like anyone who says "GOD@#$% AMERICA!".........ummmmm, I hope he realizes how blessed he is by God to have been placed in such a great country, where he can say such a thing, and not be killed for it. Yes, he has been "hounded" by the media, but, nature of the beast......gunna say things like that, there's gunna be some displeased people......and that is what he said that offended me, and I have a right to be offended, just like he has the right to say what he wishes. GODBLESS AMERICA!
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