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Old 10-13-2010, 12:39 PM
 
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Old 10-13-2010, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Old 10-13-2010, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Dorchester
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You are implying that Christians' beliefs were in no way detrimental to science!

Tell that to Galileo who was held under house arrest by the Catholic church for proclaiming that the earth revolved around the sun. Galileo figured this out mathematically which his accusers were unable to comprehend.

Now, the same argument exists with creation vs. evolution. The Christians cannot understand the significance of carbon dating, etc... so they would rather believe that plants existed on earth before the sun, moon, or stars were created.
The Christian idea of the universe before Galileo came from the earlier scientific studies of Aristotle.

As far as the other comment I agree with you. Anyone who does not accept evolution is blind.
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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sounds like it's right up your alley-

Think about it: everybody is forced to think the exact same way and worship the same god. If you say anything blasphemous, or do anything that the "mob rule" disagrees with, you are judged without a trial and sentenced by physical mutilation and/or dismemberment in public to "send a message" or a "teach a lesson" to anyone who may be considering similar behavior. And in the very best of outcomes, STONING TO DEATH!. Oh, think of the fun!


Because this is the UNITED STATES of AMERICA!
We have our own Federal, State and local laws, that are governed by the people of the this nation. Not some rag top idiot, that feels his belief is above the laws of this nation.
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:02 PM
 
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The Christian idea of the universe before Galileo came from the earlier scientific studies of Aristotle.

As far as the other comment I agree with you. Anyone who does not accept evolution is blind.
They accepted the scientific studies of Aristotle because it reinforced what they believed in the bible.

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a literalist interpretation of Scripture in several places, such as 1 Chronicles 16:30, Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5, Ecclesiastes 1:5. Further, since in the Incarnation the Son of God had descended to the earth and become man, it seemed fitting that the Earth be the center around which all other celestial bodies moved.
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Heliocentrism, the theory that the Earth was a planet, which, along with all the others, revolved around the Sun, contradicted both geocentrism and the prevailing theological support of the theory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

Basically, the scientific litmus test for most Christians is: Does it support what is written in the bible?
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:10 PM
 
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Interesting point!

People could be prosecuted for being gay or having an abortion. The poor people are poor because it is God's will, therefore, no need to help them. We could pronounce Holy War on Islam and bring on Armageddon expediting the hereafter.
And women wouldn't vote or be educated, zakat (titheing) would be taken directly from our paychecks, tatoos taboo, and jewelry forbidden for men, men and women have different entrances on buses, different banks, women not allowed to drive or ride bicycles, not allowed to take a taxi without a male family member in escort, alcohol forbidden, drug use of ANY KIND punishable with public beheading at the mosque the very next Friday after sentencing, and so many other niceties. Rock on Sharia fans. As a grateful Christian, I am free indeed.
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:16 PM
 
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No, that's the most stupid question one could concoct. Why do conservatives make up ridiculous claims about liberals and then ask these kinds of questions? I mean, it's like "When did you stop beating your wife?" or "Why do you love higher taxes?".

As a (mostly) liberal, I strongly oppose sharia law. I can't imagine anyone outside of Islamic fundamentalism supporting it but I DO get the point of the OP because American conservatives exhibit the same traits. Which returns me to the question above by SourD. Your world is so black and white that you might as well be a sharia supporter. Anyone whose convictions, political or religious, are so cut and dry, so us vs. them needs to look in the mirror to see exactly how they have become what they...despise. It's like when a country fights terrorism by resorting to its use.
What you describe is the totalitarian impulse. That impulse has been put into effect largely by political ideologies of the Left: Nazism and communism, to be specific. But lesser stains of totalitarianism infect even the Left in this country. Go to a college campus if you want to experience group think and political correctness--all enforced through speech codes. Environmentalism and healthism are all practiced by the Left and aim to enforce prescribed behaviors. Trust me: if there is a threat to liberty in this country it is not coming from conservatives.
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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sounds like it's right up your alley-

Think about it: everybody is forced to think the exact same way and worship the same god. If you say anything blasphemous, or do anything that the "mob rule" disagrees with, you are judged without a trial and sentenced by physical mutilation and/or dismemberment in public to "send a message" or a "teach a lesson" to anyone who may be considering similar behavior. And in the very best of outcomes, STONING TO DEATH!. Oh, think of the fun!
When have you ever been forced to do anything or do you still live with your parents?
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Dorchester
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Basically, the scientific litmus test for most Christians is: Does it support what is written in the bible?
BS!
Personally, I am Catholic, most of the people I know are either Catholic or are of some other form of Christian persuasion. A very small percentage of them - if any at all - live their lives the way you seem to think they do.

If you are so wrong about this, what else are you wrong about?
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Old 10-13-2010, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Then you are against freedom. Liberalism is the opposite of what made America great.
Liberalism was what made the county great. The founding fathers were liberal. If they were'nt, you'd be living under the rule of the Queen of England.
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