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Old 12-22-2010, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Let's address the topic of the thread, it's a lame attempt at accusing the Obama administration of being unaware of things the article clearly states the intelligence community as a whole was aware of and the pissant little cowboy had nothing to do with it.

Happy now Happy?
I would prefer that people defend based on the topic and not deflect to "well Bush did it" which serves no purpose.

I'm no fan of Bush and no fan of Obama so I got no horse in this game.
But Bush is gone for 2 years now. Truly he can't still be directing the administration ?
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Well, not as a whole; after all the top man was not aware...
The only thing that is worse than being uniformed would be being informed and not acting on the information to prevent the biggest attack in history on the country that one represents.
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Is anybody here aware of everything that's going on around them? Is there any CEO, anywhere, who knows everything that's going on down on the shop floor in real time? Is there any boss or supervisor whose underlings tell him everything, all the time?

No, of course not. Anybody who would expect that knows nothing about....well, much of anything.
Amazing statement absolving the incompetence of the TOP intelligence officer in obama's administration. One can assume the reaction would have been much different 3 years ago.
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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He should have called Janet..Queen of the DHS. I bet she knows ALL that is happening in the world.
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I would prefer that people defend based on the topic and not deflect to "well Bush did it" which serves no purpose.

I'm no fan of Bush and no fan of Obama so I got no horse in this game.
But Bush is gone for 2 years now. Truly he can't still be directing the administration ?

I believe the topic is about top American officials receiving/not receiving Intelligence related to terrorist attacks and their subsequent response related to receiving/not receiving such intelligence.
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:34 AM
 
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I think his days are numbered. Think of the grilling he will get in the House when the GOP takes over.
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Amazing statement absolving the incompetence of the TOP intelligence officer in obama's administration. One can assume the reaction would have been much different 3 years ago.
Only if there was harm done to our country as a result.
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:35 AM
 
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The only thing that is worse than being uniformed would be being informed and not acting on the information to prevent the biggest attack in history on the country that one represents.
So true!!!
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Old 12-22-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Amazing statement absolving the incompetence of the TOP intelligence officer in obama's administration. One can assume the reaction would have been much different 3 years ago.
One would assume so incorrectly.

I've been in bureaucracies, even at the top of one, and I promise you I never knew what was going on any farther down than the next two levels. That was on purpose. To become involved in the day to day operations is micro-management and nobody should want that.

What you're expecting him to do, and holding him accountable for not doing so, is akin to expecting an Army theater Commander to know right off the cuff what each of his squads are doing.

An EFFECTIVE bureaucracy doesn't work that way.
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Old 12-22-2010, 12:03 PM
 
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One would assume so incorrectly.

I've been in bureaucracies, even at the top of one, and I promise you I never knew what was going on any farther down than the next two levels. That was on purpose. To become involved in the day to day operations is micro-management and nobody should want that.

What you're expecting him to do, and holding him accountable for not doing so, is akin to expecting an Army theater Commander to know right off the cuff what each of his squads are doing.

An EFFECTIVE bureaucracy doesn't work that way.
Yeah ok, is there ANYTHING at all that you lefties won't go to bat for Obama and his worthless team over? Anything at all? You guys just give them pass after pass for being incompetent. That really shows the true character of those who do that. Birds of a feather........Incompetence breeds and follows incompetence.
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