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Old 02-09-2011, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Then the median income would be far greater than what it is. What ever happened to stats?

Nothing happened to stats. People just don't have the desire to accumulate wealth and make the sacrifices needed to get there.
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Old 02-09-2011, 08:44 PM
 
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Rich people > You
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Old 02-09-2011, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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It is extremely hard to become a self made millionaire or very wealthy. The vast majority of those who are very wealthy inherited, or married into it.

That is a total lie. Most who are wealthy worked their butts off to get there.

It's only a matter of desire. If you really want to be wealthy, you can get there.
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Old 02-09-2011, 08:46 PM
 
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That is a total lie. Most who are wealthy worked their butts off to get there.

It's only a matter of desire. If you really want to be wealthy, you can get there.
Agreed. Most people who aren't wealthy are too stupid or lazy to get there. It's very possible to be very rich in the united states. You just have to get off your ass and do it.
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Old 02-09-2011, 09:16 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Pathetic victim mentality and false. If you've got proof of that, I'd love to see it. But you won't show us proof because it doesn't exist and wouldn't fit your pity party agenda.

I work with some of the wealthiest people in my town every day, and I can tell you that the vast majority of them (probably 85%) were NOT born into money.

If you think like a failure, you will be a failure. Just try not to be envious. It's not becoming.
While I may not have phrased it so harshly, I do agree... most people who say things like that are bitter, and it makes them feel better to assume wealth is inherited.

I'm not wealthy by any stretch (my father's money has little effect, as he hasn't supported me since high school), and guess what? It's mostly because I have no desire to work ridiculous hours & sell my soul to a corporation! Nor do I have the desire to run a company, aside from the small snake breeding & educational business I'm currently working on building - and nobody gets rich on that type of business, considering even the biggest facilities barely make ends meet.

I have the base for becoming wealthy, with advanced degrees and so forth, but my motivation is only to be happy... so I chose a fairly low-paying career in librarianship, because it's what I wanted to do. As long as I make enough to live on, that's good enough for me. Therefore you could say I've chosen not to be rich, and who knows what I could earn with the drive to succeed financially? Not interested, though, since I truly love what I do - even though I'm earning less than some people with lower educations. And having grown up around wealth, I also know for a FACT that it doesn't buy happiness (it was actually a major factor in the disintegration of my own family).

When people are on their death-beds, they rarely will say "I wish I'd spent more time at the office, and earned more money." Know what I mean?

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Old 02-09-2011, 09:24 PM
 
Location: tampa bay
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Many people say hard working, intelligent people will become rich. Usually they use it defend the fact top 1% of people in US own most of wealth in the USA. However, the FACT is most hard working, smart people will not get rich.

There are about 50 million people (or 27% of the US population) with BA degree or above. I would assume most of these people are intelligent and hard working. However, there are only 7.9 millionaires in the US (about 2.5% of population), which means most of these hard working people are not rich. This doesn't even consider becoming super rich billionaires, there are only 403 billionaires of them in United States. Most intelligent, hard working people will find it impossible to join the ranks of the rich.

I would think the posters/people who keep on sayings smarts and hard work leads to riches are themselves intelligent and hard working. Question is how many of them, if any, are actually millionaires? I would guess only a very few!
You have a better chance being smart and hard working rather then dumb and lazy! Unless you inherit wealth or win the lottery in which case you could be a lazy moron!
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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Nothing happened to stats. People just don't have the desire to accumulate wealth and make the sacrifices needed to get there.
Okay. Here, in reality, it doesn't quite work like that. Otherwise the median income would be much higher. If you look at EVERY sociological study ever done on wealth you will see that most people born middle class stay middle class...class mobility is largely a myth.
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Canackistan
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I'll take a crack at this.

A lot of people are intelligent and hard working, but might not want all that much money . More money brings more problems you know. Some folks just see the potential problems with having an obscene amount of money and go "F*** it, I'm good where I am".

Others have blinders on. They might be smart, they might be hard working, but they think that by toeing the company line they'll get somewhere. Listen up: Very, very few people will end up wealthy by having someone else sign their paycheques. Sure, you might get into a nice comfortable position with a corporation, you might make bank CEO, but it's rare.

Still more people have lots of money, but proceed to p*ss it down the drain faster than it can come in. The amount of debt some people carry is astounding.

A lot of the guys truly wealthy, learned the system and how to beat it. They had a new idea, or a great twist on an old one. Sometimes it merely takes street smarts, a willingness to take a chance, some wickedly good luck, good timing, connections, friends and networking - and yes, a little hard work.

Some are crooks and liars - it's wrong, but they're rich. They will prey on the stupid, and thank god every day for dumbass*s.

My old boss was a multi-millionaire, and he never finished high school. He just learned how to stay ahead of the curve.
It depends on what you want really. I've been poor, and I have had money. I would never want to be poor ever again. While it's true money can't buy you happiness. But it can buy you a ticket to happyland - it's your choice whether you want to use it.
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Old 02-10-2011, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Prosperity is the creation, trade, transportation and enjoyment of surplus usable goods and services.
Prosperity is the production of more, with less, so more can enjoy that production.
Prosperity is lost when creation, production, trade, transportation or enjoyment of goods and services is impaired or denied.
Prosperity is not measurable in a sum of money tokens, nor is it enhanced by stealing from one and giving to another.

Chasing after money is a form of money madness (http://www.ozmirage.org/anic/tiki-index.php?page=Money%20Madness - broken link).
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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three ways to get rich
1. work hard get a decent education and hope you make it
2. the second way is to screw other people over for you own means so pretty much become a sell out
3. inheritance

best thing to do is get into a job/career you don't where you don't mind going to work everyday at.
it beats waking up and going to work somewhere you hate 5 days a week
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