Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
No boats necessary for Intra-African trade (i.e., Africans enslaving and trading other Africans)
Are boats needed to ship anything from let's say Montana to Tennessee? Of course not. They're on the same land mass.
African slavery was not exactly the same. In fact, slave was also interchangeably a class status. So a person of moderate to fairly well off means could have been from a slave caste (lower tribe).
Many slaves were not treated well, but there were many stories of African slaves in Africa that eventually became part of the families they worked for. So the idea of economic servant was less rigid in Africa than in the new world.
Selling one slave to another slave owner is the same thing.
Africans provided the means
Not really actually. Slavery was not slavery was not slavery. Its much more nuanced than that. Not to mention there were coercion tactics in play by the part of Europeans during many "trades".
The Africans, having a fundamentally different idea of slavery, did not actually think about the ramifications and the idea that they were selling them across the Atlantic. Not to mention that sometimes if they weren't sold...everyone could die or be sold.
But that is how they are referred to today..not just "Blacks" but "African-American". So where does that leave the true African Americans who immigrated from Africa and now live in the US ?
Funny how no one ever tells the jews to shut up about the Holocaust, since it was their fellow whites who tried to exterminate them. Or the Indians, because it was Indian scouts who helped whites track down their fellow Indians. No...just the blacks. Slavery was ok because other "blacks" sold us into slavery.
This is why it's almost pointless to argue about the slavery angle. Slavery went from being a bad thing in this country, to now being acceptable because after all, it was blacks who perpetrated it upon their on people.
But these are forums, so people feel free to come out of their face and say things that they can't or won't say in real life. Sometimes i entertain it because i find it so funny. In my 45 years, no person has ever told me that slavery was ok because blacks sold blacks into slavery. LMAO....So, it is what it is...fascinating.
Funny how no one ever tells the jews to shut up about the Holocaust, since it was their fellow whites who tried to exterminate them. Or the Indians, because it was Indian scouts who helped whites track down their fellow Indians. No...just the blacks. Slavery was ok because other "blacks" sold us into slavery.
This is why it's almost pointless to argue about the slavery angle. Slavery went from being a bad thing in this country, to now being acceptable because after all, it was blacks who perpetrated it upon their on people.
Really, why bother?
Nobody is justifying slavery.
And this thread is talking about Africans & black Americans, so there was no need to include other events that happen with the Jews etc.
The point I am making is you are trying to justify African slavery over American slavery
Not really actually. Slavery was not slavery was not slavery. Its much more nuanced than that. Not to mention there were coercion tactics in play by the part of Europeans during many "trades".
The Africans, having a fundamentally different idea of slavery, did not actually think about the ramifications and the idea that they were selling them across the Atlantic. Not to mention that sometimes if they weren't sold...everyone could die or be sold.
Please describe in detail what are talking about with proof please.
OK. Please tell me where or how I might be off base.
So you are saying a white baby born today in Johannesburg will automatically be an exploitive racist? Surely the baby has no control over where it is born or the color of its skin, nor the attitude of its forefathers. The only thing you can judge is the way the baby will live its life. Sure acknowlegement and real knowledge of the past is important, but judging a person purely on their melanin is very unfair.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
