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Old 02-26-2011, 10:46 AM
 
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I wonder if they are going to hire Harry Reid's lobbyist sons!
If more and more democrats are realizing the wisdom behind abolishing and curbing lobbyist influence, why continue your one upsmanship nonsense when the consequence of that action would apply to all equally?

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And if you are going to give info on who gave what in this past election, please provide who gave what to Walker's opponent. Just to show you are not biased.
Why can't you provide that evidence just to show you're in this forum for adult consideration of issues?

 
Old 02-26-2011, 10:46 AM
 
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If I were in WI, I'd buy the Koch Bros a drink. If they had anything to do with the collapse of the union, they deserve a metal...!
I think you deserve a "metal" too...
 
Old 02-26-2011, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Koch brothers quietly open lobbying office in downtown Madison

"The billionaire brothers whose political action committee gave Gov. Scott Walker $43,000 and helped fund a multi-million dollar attack ad campaign against his opponent during the 2010 gubernatorial election have quietly opened a lobbying office in Madison just off the Capitol Square. . . The expanded lobbying effort by the Koch brothers in Wisconsin raises red flags in particular because of a little discussed provision in Walker's repair bill that would allow Koch Industries and other private companies to purchase state-owned power plants in no-bid contracts."

Plant Manager Jobs - Power Plant/Operations/Maintenance - State of , Wisconsin (http://www.thinkenergygroup.com/think.nsf/J/84239?Opendocument - broken link)

"Energy client is looking for experienced Plant Managers for multiple power plants located in Wisconsin. You need 15+ years of operations & maintenance experience in a power plant environment. You should have at least 5 years of experience managing operations & maintenance teams in an operational power plant. The ideal candidate has experience in a coal fired power plant. Salary is commensurate with experience."



Coincidence? Maybe. But I think not.

This scenario is precisely why it is so dangerous for corporations to be considered "people", and be allowed to literally buy Governors and other "elected" officials.

Another liberal conspiracy theory. As if there are no power plants already in WI that might be looking for help.

Isn't this a good sign, that there are jobs out there?

As to the only point in your post really worthy of discussion (the last sentence), I think we do need to reform campaign contributions. That includes contributions from ALL donors, unions included.
 
Old 02-26-2011, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Open you own thread about such. This thread is about the Koch brothers' financial contribution to Walker. Walker trying to pass a "no bid" selling of public utility companies in the budget bill. And the Koch bothers advertising for "managers of utilities."

Even a third grader can connect these dots!

And this happens all within Walker's first 60 days in office! Holy Crap! Who else or what else is Walker going to sell WI out to?
Um, do you understand that the state has a legal responsibility (it's in the WI Constitution) to be frugal? Just b/c there is a no-bid clause does not mean that it still wouldn't be cheaper than the current system. You have no idea, nobody does, so it would be wise to refrain from speculation so as not to look like a fool down the road.

Btw, nobody has proven that the Koch Bros have anything to do with any of this budget stuff. The only evidence is that they gave a large donation to Walker's campaign fund...months ago. Maybe it's b/c they finally found a potential governor they could believe in, who would do the right thing for the state. Perhaps? Just mayyyyyyyybe some people still have ethics.

And yes, other contributions to both sides of the aisle are relevant to the topic. How much did the unions give the Democrat candidate? That would be a great question and I'm sure it would shut all these folks up who are going on and on with conspiracy theories about the Koch Bros.
 
Old 02-26-2011, 10:55 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Um, do you understand that the state has a legal responsibility (it's in the WI Constitution) to be frugal? Just b/c there is a no-bid clause does not mean that it still wouldn't be cheaper than the current system.
Exactly, andrea. That section also has an accountability clause. Any action taken under that section MUST be in the State of WI's best interest.

Now, you libs explain how a $10.9 billion deficit in the WI teachers pension system is frugal or in the State of WI's best interest.
 
Old 02-26-2011, 10:57 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Boy do we need to make education a priority!
yup. when are you planning to go back to school?

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Old 02-26-2011, 11:00 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Jill61 View Post
Koch brothers quietly open lobbying office in downtown Madison

"The billionaire brothers whose political action committee gave Gov. Scott Walker $43,000 and helped fund a multi-million dollar attack ad campaign against his opponent during the 2010 gubernatorial election have quietly opened a lobbying office in Madison just off the Capitol Square. . . The expanded lobbying effort by the Koch brothers in Wisconsin raises red flags in particular because of a little discussed provision in Walker's repair bill that would allow Koch Industries and other private companies to purchase state-owned power plants in no-bid contracts."

Plant Manager Jobs - Power Plant/Operations/Maintenance - State of , Wisconsin (http://www.thinkenergygroup.com/think.nsf/J/84239?Opendocument - broken link)

"Energy client is looking for experienced Plant Managers for multiple power plants located in Wisconsin. You need 15+ years of operations & maintenance experience in a power plant environment. You should have at least 5 years of experience managing operations & maintenance teams in an operational power plant. The ideal candidate has experience in a coal fired power plant. Salary is commensurate with experience."



Coincidence? Maybe. But I think not.

This scenario is precisely why it is so dangerous for corporations to be considered "people", and be allowed to literally buy Governors and other "elected" officials.

GE gets more from Obama than the Koch Brothers do from a mere governor.
 
Old 02-26-2011, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Hmmm... let's take a look at what the public sector unions gave his Dem opponent: $90,540
...with the Education Industry giving another $179,968
...and civil servants and public officials giving another $231,610

Now what about the trade unions? How much did they give Walker's Dem opponent? $312,959

The unions seem to be trying to buy themselves better wages and benefits, using taxpayers' money.

The facts:
BARRETT, TOM | Follow The Money

The facts are certainly nagging for our resident moonbats.
 
Old 02-26-2011, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Originally Posted by Jill61 View Post
Koch brothers quietly open lobbying office in downtown Madison

"The billionaire brothers whose political action committee gave Gov. Scott Walker $43,000 and helped fund a multi-million dollar attack ad campaign against his opponent during the 2010 gubernatorial election have quietly opened a lobbying office in Madison just off the Capitol Square. . . The expanded lobbying effort by the Koch brothers in Wisconsin raises red flags in particular because of a little discussed provision in Walker's repair bill that would allow Koch Industries and other private companies to purchase state-owned power plants in no-bid contracts."

Plant Manager Jobs - Power Plant/Operations/Maintenance - State of , Wisconsin (http://www.thinkenergygroup.com/think.nsf/J/84239?Opendocument - broken link)

"Energy client is looking for experienced Plant Managers for multiple power plants located in Wisconsin. You need 15+ years of operations & maintenance experience in a power plant environment. You should have at least 5 years of experience managing operations & maintenance teams in an operational power plant. The ideal candidate has experience in a coal fired power plant. Salary is commensurate with experience."



Coincidence? Maybe. But I think not.

This scenario is precisely why it is so dangerous for corporations to be considered "people", and be allowed to literally buy Governors and other "elected" officials.
The only thing in this post that makes any sense to me is the use of the two words, red flag. You raised one those here. Does it have a hammer and sickle on it? I think that it does.
 
Old 02-26-2011, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I'd like to see that, too. Please post that, Jill61.
She probably would but her ready source for info probably doesn't give out that kind of info.
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