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Old 03-15-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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Americans tend to fear "random acts of violence" type crimes. Invasions of the person or home. Murder of random people. Robbery. Degredation of neighborhoods and gangs that turn neighborhoods into war zones that people fear even driving through on normal business.


"White collar" crime generally is not something feared. The losses are monetary, usually insured, and rarely if ever is someone physically harmed. Same thing with suburban "behind closed doors" drug dealing and high class prostitution rings. Discrete operations. Undercover. The average person doesn't have to see any of it unless they are looking for it. Compare to "street crime."

Because "street crime" happens "on the streets" and in the black and poor neighborhoods most often, it effects those areas disproportionately, and you get more arrests of the criminals in these areas that brazenly flaunt their criminality.

A few years ago in Palm Beach County, Bernie Madoff and friends were free and running their ponzi scheme from the Island of millionaires, ripping off tens of millions of dollars from innocent people. Simultaneously, just a few miles away, an entrepreneurial group of (mostly) black men were producing a video series called "gangstas and thugs" (you can google it on Youtube), wherein they glorified their use and sale of drugs, murders and assualts, flashed illegal weapons, staged and/or filmed their fights in the streets, etc. Guess which individuals attracted the most attention from police?

If you were police chief, where would YOU focus your cops?
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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I'm not even gonna get into this fairy tale.
Unless you were one of the pigs that tackled me you shouldn't speak about events where you were not present.
My gun jammed, thats the only reason I'm alive right now.
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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I'm sure it's a lot but again it's not in the open, this topic is about why there is more blacks incarcerated. If you're going to get arrested for drugs you first need to get caught with them.
There are lots of drug raids that take place in urban areas. Contrary to what the media/rap music proclaims, all drug transactions in the hood don't take place on the corner.
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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I'm white, could I do the same thing in your neighborhood? I know you could in mine.

Here's the crime stats for where I grew up:


http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime...nsylvania.html
There were white people in the projects where I grew up, so I'd say yes.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:02 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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Unless you were one of the pigs that tackled me you shouldn't speak about events where you were not present.
My gun jammed, thats the only reason I'm alive right now.
Uh huh.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:04 PM
 
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There are lots of drug raids that take place in urban areas. Contrary to what the media/rap music proclaims, all drug transactions in the hood don't take place on the corner.
The raids are on the stash houses. Of course its not always on the corner, but the terms (the block, the corner, etc.) all mean the same thing. If your selling drugs in a parking lot where fiends go to because they know theres dealers out there posted up all the time, thats the corner, same thing.

I know at least 5 blocks where I can get weed from boys posted up within a square mile of my house. I don't know about other drugs cause ive never tried crack or anything, but anyway, It's actually pretty convenient and nice cause all I have to do is walk to the corner store, or the shopping center, or the APT complex to get some bud, and its always the same group of guys at each spot so I know them and know what there quality and prices is. It's really nice, like walking into a MJ convenience store, but I think it's really stupid to be selling drugs like that.

Than there's the projects and lots of people actually sell dope out of there house, which is the most idiotic thing imaginable.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:12 PM
 
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Way back in the 70s, I was challenged to view TV news and printed news with new eyes. This was for a college level journalism class.

I noticed how if someone black committed a crime, that the person was shown on the news; if the alleged criminal was white, the were not shown.

Let me tell you how shocked I was that this was true.

I also started looking (by challenge) at the type of sentencing for blacks and whites for the same crime. Blacks were by far sentenced more harshly than whites for the same crimes.

Since that time, I've known that the media is consciously pushing fear of blacks on people who watch tv or read papers.
I've noticed the same thing. Very recently, there was a girl that was shot by a cop reaching for her gun. Instead of the mug shot on the newspaper website that they print whenever a "low-life" criminal gets shot like this, they repeatedly put her Glamour Shot photo provided by her family.

The girl? White middle-class.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I agree with you about the penalties for drug crimes being f***ed, but you quoted the person and than said something completely different of the point he was making.

The point he was making is whites buy and sell drugs indoors to people they know. blacks sell on the street to strangers, which is stupid and asking to be incarcerated. I get propositioned by random black dudes every day if I want to buy drugs ("str8 on loud bra", "got that girl" "u need exotic?", etc....) I hear those 3 phrases by 3 different black men that ive rarely even seen before almost every day. Ive never been propositioned by a white dude to buy drugs and very few white drug dealers sell on the streets. Most refuse to even admit to anyone they don't know pretty well that they even sell drugs.
The point was there are more fish in a smaller area in the city especially lower income areas where the population density is greater. Lower income people have less to loose as well as less chances to make money. Risk, reward play into it.
Minorities are targeted more often. A study about blacks being pulled over for traffic offenses turned out even though a higher percentage of blacks were pulled over than whites that same study showed the percentage of blacks having drugs was lower than whites. Granted only one study.
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:24 PM
 
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The point was there are more fish in a smaller area in the city especially lower income areas where the population density is greater. Lower income people have less to loose as well as less chances to make money. Risk, reward play into it.
Minorities are targeted more often. A study about blacks being pulled over for traffic offenses turned out even though a higher percentage of blacks were pulled over than whites that same study showed the percentage of blacks having drugs was lower than whites. Granted only one study.
Link?
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Old 03-15-2011, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What real reason was there for eight cops to assume that two (black) thirteen year-olds had something on us? Because we were walking into a 7-Eleven?
I mean, really, what did you expect? I wouldn't have even been able to go out at that time of night (morning) when I was that age. 13 years old out at 1:00am in the morning? A 13 year old child has no business out that late and should be in bed. They should have thrown you both in juvenile detention just out of principle.
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