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Old 03-24-2011, 04:24 PM
 
Location: FL
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Yep. That's exactly what they did to Alvarez in Florida. He approved union sweetheart contracts for public employees and increased taxes to pay for it:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/18304182-post25.html

88% of the voters angrily ousted him from his elected office.

I'll remined everyone, again... a WI tax watchdog group is compiling a list of the unions and elected officials slamming union sweetheart contracts before the law takes effect. Those sweetheart deals will force extra costs onto the taxpayers. That will all come out in the next election cycle. When WI residents are angered yet again by skyrocketing tax bills, it will be extremely easy to cast blame exactly where it belongs.
So you think it is OK for them to go after the teachers but the police is different because they backed Walker? Doesn't the police cost taxpayers money also?
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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Its a token gesture in the grand scheme of WI budget. Again, you don't look at the facts: POLICE and FIRE make up the greatest portion of the state budget; yet they aren't touched? Why?
BZZZ Because police and fire fighters were better at lobbying Democrats
New state law discourages cuts in police, fire department budgets - JSOnline

And your posting doesnt paint the complete picture
Whats the average cost per police/fire employee vs teachers? Simply stating they make up the largest part of the budget is like saying you should cut out Social Security because its a large share of the federal budgets.. You wouldnt support this, would you?
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:41 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Ditto
This liberal activist judge is totally in the wrong. They violated no rules. They didn't need to give notice, but they did anyway.

I hate liberals. They are all evil.
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:54 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The bill broke numerous laws, mainly it was forced through without allowing review.
Otherwise outstanding news! The right have gotten so desperate they are breaking the law and wiping their rears with the constitution to get their way.
No, it didn't. It didn't break any laws or rules. This has been thoroughly checked and disscussed. What they did was perfectly within the rules and legal. You are misinformed.
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I hate liberals. They are all evil.
See... that's the difference right there. That's the fundamental asymmetry.

Liberals thing conservatives are merely dumb.

But conservatives actually think liberals are evil.

Hence the essentially religious fervor of right wing fanaticism.

Who's up for a new Spanish Inquisition?
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:03 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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The judge scheduled further hearings for March 29th. Judge Sumi said it must be determined if the violations of the Open Meetings Law were serious enough to void the law.

Love those separation of powers.

And, no, it's not Obama's fault.
This judge is in the pocket of the unions, and is an idiot. She should be impeached.

There were no violations and she knows it.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:06 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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See... that's the difference right there. That's the fundamental asymmetry.

Liberals thing conservatives are merely dumb.

But conservatives actually think liberals are evil.

Hence the essentially religious fervor of right wing fanaticism.

Who's up for a new Spanish Inquisition?
Oh, give me a break!! But liberalism is evil.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Oh, give me a break!! But liberalism is evil.
Our Constitution was written by liberals.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:10 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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No, they didn't! You don't know what you are talking about. This was a special session.
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Old 03-24-2011, 05:26 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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So you think it is OK for them to go after the teachers but the police is different because they backed Walker? Doesn't the police cost taxpayers money also?
It's a start. As the impact of 'there is no money' continues to hits state and local governments harder and harder, all public employees will have to feel the pain the rest of the taxpayers already experience.

The gravy train days are over. Deal with it.
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