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I'm married. You are advocating a change to the definition of marriage. Such a change would affect anyone that is married.
Wrong. I have a driver's license. In my state, you have to be 16 years of age or older to obtain the title "licensed driver." If the state enacts a law allowing 15 year olds to drive, I am STILL a "licensed driver." My rights, privileges and responsibilities remain the same.
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I consider marriage to be a sacred thing. God created marriage--and it is a sacred symbolic image of how God loves his church. The church is called the "Bride of Christ". You can whine about how us Christians supposedly hate you and others..but really, it has nothing to do with that.
Your belief is not supported by historical fact, but OK.
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I think it slanders my marriage, it slanders my religion, and it cheapens the whole thing.
I'm sorry, but I don't wish ill on anyone..but it is my conviction that marriage should be 1 man, 1 woman. I've got as much right to that view as you have to your's.
SO you have provided only your opinion on how it will offend your sensibilities and your particular brand of Christianity. That is a subjective personal issue. How does it effect heterosexual marriage, OBJECTIVELY? What changes vis-a-vis your responsibilities towards your wife and the government as outlined in your marriage CONTRACT? (Which is the ONLY thing the state cares about, btw. You can get "married" by your pastor 100 times, but unless you have the state marriage CERTIFICATE, you are not "married" in the eyes of the state).
no according to federal law, anything you have to PAY for is a priviledge...you ASK PERMISSION to get married by having a MARRIAGE LICENSE (for which you PAY the government for the PERMISSION)
marriage by law is a PRIVILEDGE , not a right
"no according to federal law, anything you have to PAY for is a priviledge". "According to federal law"???? You are making no sense.
Will the proponents here for gay marriage please make up your minds? Is marriage a right or a privilege?
Wrong. I have a driver's license. In my state, you have to be 16 years of age or older to obtain the title "licensed driver." If the state enacts a law allowing 15 year olds to drive, I am STILL a "licensed driver." My rights, privileges and responsibilities remain the same.
What of the 12 year olds that want to drive? Maybe I don't want to stop at red lights. Are you suggesting *gasp* that we should restrict anyone?
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Your belief is not supported by historical fact, but OK.
huh?
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SO you have provided only your opinion on how it will offend your sensibilities and your particular brand of Christianity. That is a subjective personal issue. How does it effect heterosexual marriage, OBJECTIVELY? What changes vis-a-vis your responsibilities towards your wife and the government as outlined in your marriage CONTRACT? (Which is the ONLY thing the state cares about, btw. You can get "married" by your pastor 100 times, but unless you have the state marriage CERTIFICATE, you are not "married" in the eyes of the state).
You should stop judging me. I gave you my reasons, I don't much care if you think they're good or not. I have as much right to my opinion as you do.
Actually, traditional marriage has already collapsed, just look at the divorce rates, the out of wedlock birth rates, and the larger numbers of people choosing to be remain unmarried in general.
None of this has anything to do with gay marriage. I'm not an advocate, but I have no problem with citizens choosing to have it (or not) IN THEIR STATE based on the Tenth Amendment. People who advocate for (or against it) shouldn't try to force their views down the throats of people using the courts, however. If the citizens have voted for or against it, others should accept it or move to a state the agrees with them.
Then by the same standards, a state that the majority do not want interracial marriage should be able to vote on it and place bans on it. There is no difference, it is still mandated discrimination.
People with mental problems rarely think they are.
This is rich coming from the side of the political spectrum and perspective whose members believe in an invisible person who lives in the sky, overlooking the earth like a giant ant farm and concerns himself with the bedroom antics of humanity.
Talk about crazy. Mass delusionment is more like it.
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