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If it's not your pregnancy, it's NONE of your business.
Nothing could be more straightforward.
At what exact point SHOULD it be other peoples' business? After the cord is cut? When the baby exits the birth canal? Or at some other point? If you can't answer this question, maybe you need to rethink your position.
You go out and have sex. You go out and get pregnant, and all of the sudden if I am not willing to pay for your actions, I have to acquiesce to your demands to commit infanticide.
It is YOUR child, NOT MINE.
I don't demand you pay the fuel tab for my sportfisher ($3,000 a month or more), so why insist that I should pay for your baby.
The word you are looking for is
SSEEEELLLLFFFIIIISSSSHHHHNNNEEEEESSSSS on the part of the pro-infanticide crowd.
Once again read what I said, it is nothing that I made up it's reality. If abortion is outlawed in it's entirety there will be an increase in social programs, if not well there will be an increase in crime thus the increase in the prison population. READ: more social programs
I never said that it was right or wrong. It seems that we are speaking in two different languages morality verses reality.........and judging from this post they will never meet.
This is just my opinion and some of you might not like it, well here it goes.
Abortions should automatic be allowed in cases of PROVEN rape/incest and cases where it is life or death for the mother. This must proven BEFORE the end of the first trimester except the latter when the physician deemed necessary. Anyone else must receive pre-counselling on the procedure and it MUST be performed with the first 8 weeks and they must be held accountable for 75% of the cost.
Why would you have sex if you didn't want a baby or knew you would not be able to take care of the child??? Thats always a possabilty if your having sex. The only 100% way to not get pregnant and never have to get an abortion is abstinence. Abortion is the easy way out, it makes it so these women can have sex whenever they want, but never have to take personal responsabilty. It seems like people don't want to live with the consequences of their actions or allow other people to not have to, thats what it seems like to me. I don't care if its a law or not, I think it is wrong unless the mothers life is also at risk. Than she should be able to choose since it could potentially really end her life. Im on the fence about in cases of rape or incest maybe there could be some middle ground found there idk. But if you think its alright just because the law says so, than your saying slavery was perfectly fine since law once said you could own slaves in Southern states(For the record I think slavery was a terrible thing and a dark period in our country's history, just using an analogy).
Why would you have sex if you didn't want a baby or knew you would not be able to take care of the child??? Thats always a possabilty if your having sex. The only 100% way to not get pregnant and never have to get an abortion is abstinence. Abortion is the easy way out, it makes it so these women can have sex whenever they want, but never have to take personal responsabilty. It seems like people don't want to live with the consequences of their actions or allow other people to not have to, thats what it seems like to me. I don't care if its a law or not, I think it is wrong unless the mothers life is also at risk. Than she should be able to choose since it could potentially really end her life. Im on the fence about in cases of rape or incest maybe there could be some middle ground found there idk. But if you think its alright just because the law says so, than your saying slavery was perfectly fine since law once said you could own slaves in Southern states(For the record I think slavery was a terrible thing and a dark period in our country's history, just using an analogy).
As I've seen repeatedly, the so-called "pro-life" argument is really about controlling other folks' sex lives. Butt out.
As I've seen repeatedly, the so-called "pro-life" argument is really about controlling other folks' sex lives. Butt out.
Oh what a rebuttal. Im not trying to butt into people's sex lives. I want people to be responsible for their actions though, if you don't want a child don't have sex its that simple. If you have sex theres going to be a possabilty your going to get pregnant if you are a woman. This can not be disputed it is the truth.
Jill61....again I have never posed apaposition for or against abortion. I only said it was killing, a side you agreed with in your last post, despite the reasons. However I believe that using self-defense because of health risk is a slightly week side to take. One could say that the pregnancy was a side effect of intercourse, therefore the health risk associated with sex would include all of those included in prgnancy. Be like inviting a thief to your house and telling him to steel something, then shooting him in self defense. In a castle law state that is.
Before it's born, society has a responsibility to it, but after it's born, society is absolved of responsibility. You think that's a logical argument??????
Can you show me where I said anything close to suggesting society is "absolved of responsibibilty"? I'm honestly not surprised that you created a strawman argument from my statement.
In the context of mom doing what she wants with her precious body, yes--society has a say when it comes to her killing a baby in the process.
After the baby is born, absolutely, we have the responsibility to make sure he/she isn't harmed.
As soon as the baby exits mom's body, it isn't. Before then, society has a responsibility to prevent harm to that child.
YOU said it.
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