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Old 05-13-2011, 05:23 AM
 
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meh, Rand 1, Bernie 0.
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:27 AM
 
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Maybe you could develop a little transparency and show us how this happened. I don't know any homeless working physicians.
It happens because the government sets the UCR, and ICD9/10 reinbursement rates.
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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No one has a "right" to my labor.
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:35 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Everything that I want is a right and I have the right to take from my neighbors to get the money to pay for it. Am I being a good leftist now?
Pretty much.

Except most leftists want 'someone else' to take from your neighbors,they don't have the courage to do it themselves.
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Here and there
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1. Paul chose to be a doctor. Doctors provide a service, not unlike a pest control technician, a landscaper or a garbage man. If one desires a service, one pays for it. The second amendment provides the right to bear arms. No where does it mention that you must bear arms. A right to health care forces no one to provide it.

2. No one is ever going to force Paul to provide his services. It seems pretty obvious to me, for no one is forcing him to be realistic in his role of a politician. (Which, by the way, is also a service business.) The real questions from me is who does Paul 'work' for ... his patients or the medical/pharmaceutical/ insurance complex? Did he become a doctor to help sick people or did he become a doctor to acquire wealth/recognition/status?
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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1. Paul chose to be a doctor. Doctors provide a service, not unlike a pest control technician, a landscaper or a garbage man. If one desires a service, one pays for it. The second amendment provides the right to bear arms. No where does it mention that you must bear arms. A right to health care forces no one to provide it.

2. No one is ever going to force Paul to provide his services. It seems pretty obvious to me, for no one is forcing him to be realistic in his role of a politician. (Which, by the way, is also a service business.) The real questions from me is who does Paul 'work' for ... his patients or the medical/pharmaceutical/ insurance complex? Did he become a doctor to help sick people or did he become a doctor to acquire wealth/recognition/status?
I am not sure you undrstand the concept of rights. Rights are free. So if you have a "right" to healthcare it means you don't have to pay for it.
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:29 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Thumbs down Rand Paul Equates Healthcare & Slavery

Rand Paul's comment is ridiculous. Health care rights equals physician slavery? Is this man 11 years old and incapable of logic? That's like saying the right to free speech enslaves newspaper editors.
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:32 AM
 
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1. Paul chose to be a doctor. Doctors provide a service, not unlike a pest control technician, a landscaper or a garbage man. If one desires a service, one pays for it. The second amendment provides the right to bear arms. No where does it mention that you must bear arms. A right to health care forces no one to provide it.

2. No one is ever going to force Paul to provide his services. It seems pretty obvious to me, for no one is forcing him to be realistic in his role of a politician. (Which, by the way, is also a service business.) The real questions from me is who does Paul 'work' for ... his patients or the medical/pharmaceutical/ insurance complex? Did he become a doctor to help sick people or did he become a doctor to acquire wealth/recognition/status?
i think he became a politician to acquire wealth. that's where the real money lies.
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:36 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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I am not sure you undrstand the concept of rights. Rights are free. So if you have a "right" to healthcare it means you don't have to pay for it.
So, now that I have a "right" to firearms ownership does that now mean my firearms should be provided to me by the federal government for.........free? Sign me up!
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:44 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Rand Paul's comment is ridiculous. Health care rights equals physician slavery? Is this man 11 years old and incapable of logic? That's like saying the right to free speech enslaves newspaper editors.
Rand Paul seems to be refering to the works of fa hayek and his "road to serfdom." I've read it I highly recommend it. If you want to discredit the pauls you might want to read it as well........so your criticisms will have merit.

these folks are just trying to sell books but this gives you an idea.

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By Friedrich August Hayek, Bruce Caldwell - University of Chicago Press (2007) - Paperback - 283 pages - ISBN 0226320553

An unimpeachable classic work in political philosophy, intellectual and cultural history, and economics, The Road to Serfdom has inspired and infuriated politicians, scholars, and general readers for half a century. Originally published in 1944—when Eleanor Roosevelt supported the efforts of Stalin, and Albert Einstein subscribed lock, stock, and barrel to the socialist program—The Road to Serfdom was seen as heretical for its passionate warning against the dangers of state control over the means of production. For F. A. Hayek, the collectivist idea of empowering government with increasing economic control would lead not to a utopia but to the horrors of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy.First published by the University of Chicago Press on September 18, 1944, The Road to Serfdom garnered immediate, widespread attention. The first printing of 2,000 copies was exhausted instantly, and within six months more than 30,000 books were sold. In April 1945, Reader’s Digest published a condensed version of the book, and soon thereafter the Book-of-the-Month Club distributed this edition to more than 600,000 readers. A perennial best seller, the book has sold 400,000 copies in the United States alone and has been translated into more than twenty languages, along the way becoming one of the most important and influential books of the century.With this new edition, The Road to Serfdom takes its place in the series The Collected Works of F. A. Hayek. The volume includes a foreword by series editor and leading Hayek scholar Bruce Caldwell explaining the book's origins and publishing history and assessing common misinterpretations of Hayek's thought. Caldwell has also standardized and corrected Hayek's references and added helpful new explanatory notes. Supplemented with an appendix of related materials ranging from prepublication reports on the initial manuscript to forewords to earlier editions by John Chamberlain, Milton Friedman, and Hayek himself, this new edition of The Road to Serfdom will be the definitive version of Friedrich Hayek's enduring masterwork.
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