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As usual, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The Barrett Light .50 (M82) was designed in 1980 and in production since 1982. There were no automatic weapons at the Mount Carmel compound, unless the ATF or FBI brought them.
That's bull, you can see it firing through the siding on the wall at the ATF agents. The fact that there were illegal automatic weapons was the reason for the warrant. But if you want to side with Domestic Terrorists over Law Enforcement line up with MOVE and the Symbionese Liberation Army. When they come for you I'll be cheering
The fact that it was McVeighs reason for attacking ties them together forever, just as the presence of shells from Lon Horiuchi's rifle at Mt Carmel ties it to Ruby Ridge.
I've never heard of the other bombs through any credible source but I can see how it would tie in to O'Bama and the IRA
No it doesnt. I have yet to hear how McVeigh, actions, justifies Waco's actions.. All you are doing is making excuses and changing the subject..
Again, the topic is how did they get away with the siege at Waco, not what was the reaction of the public to Waco.
That's bull, you can see it firing through the siding on the wall at the ATF agents. The fact that there were illegal automatic weapons was the reason for the warrant. But if you want to side with Domestic Terrorists over Law Enforcement line up with MOVE and the Symbionese Liberation Army. When they come for you I'll be cheering
Spare us the nonsense that if you disagree, you are siding with domsetic terrorists.... Thats like defending someone planting a gun on a "criminal", to justify a copy shooting..
It does seem that they had legal weapons, that were modified to work illegally, but they wouldnt have known that until AFTER a raid..
All evidence was destroyed and the entire area bulldozed flat before any independent investigation could be done. No one associated with the compound, some of whom voluntarily left the compound alive before the final assault, have ever been heard from again to the best of my knowledge*. Even their lawyer had a gag order placed on him. You can convict anyone of anything in a closed trial.
*PLS correct me if I am wrong. I would like to hear from anyone who was inside the compound before the final assault, other than a news reporter.
All evidence was destroyed and the entire area bulldozed flat before any independent investigation could be done. No one associated with the compound, some of whom left the compound alive before the final assault, have ever been heard from again. Even their lawyer had a gag order placed on him. You can convict anyone of anything in a closed trial.
There were also more than a few reports of the full auto parts in the allegedly illegally converted weapons appearing pristine while the rest of the weapon suffered major fire damage.
The reality is we will never know what actually happened there but there are more than enough questions to call the government account suspect.
At a minimum it was a botched raid that resulted in the deaths of a substantial number of women and children.
Wow. Talk about a thread coming to a sudden halt. There is so much fear in our society today that we are afraid to even discuss such events. How sad for our country..
Time published the pictures of the 25 children under the age of five that died in the assault. My daughter was that age at the time and I carried that page folded in my wallet for a long time after that. Reports were that almost everyone in the compound had been shot execution style in the back of the head, including the children and Koresh. It seems clear that no one was meant to come out of that compound alive.
The fact that there were illegal automatic weapons was the reason for the warrant.
Based on the link above, no one had the proper licenses for 21 suppressors and 13 auto sears. Add in the 46 weapons converted to full auto and things are really bad. Am I taking up for them? No. Was the ATF justified in their response? No.
But the ATF is well known in the gun circles for being aggressive in their tactics. This is one of the more recent events where they prosecuted the owner of a malfunctioning AR-15 because it fired a few rounds with a single trigger pull Malfunctioning AR15 becomes a machine gun? « Totalrecoil . It only took the ATF months of test firing ammo that was out of spec (very light primers) before they could re-create the situation.
I don't trust the federal government. I sure don't trust part of the government that has no Constitutional power behind its existence. In a truly free country Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms would be the name of a store.
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