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Old 06-01-2011, 10:04 AM
 
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So...If I believe that workers should be in charge of profits instead of selfish CEOs and top level investors, and I believe that everyone has the right to visit a hospital without worry of debt, I'm un-American?
Actually, the answer would be YES. Ah, a peek into the leftie mind. Workers aren't in charge of profits. Never have been, never will be. Employers hire, employees agree to work for a set wage and/or benefits. End of relationship. It is the responsibility of the CEO and investors to make sure the company is profitable.

What you're calling for is socialism, and is indeed unamerican.

Let me guess - public sector employee? Or slacker living in mom and dad's basement, playing video games.
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Old 06-01-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Not having served any time does NOT mean they went to great lengths to avoid service. Another LIE. Next time, try and back up your accusations with facts, please. Until then, consider your statements nothing but libel.
I'll consider your fervent support of chickenhawks amusing.

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You might want to look at Media Matters agenda before you continue to hurl accusations.

It was the first source I found. I didn't even notice the source.
You're still beautiful.

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The the fact still stands that Napolitano issued that statement.
Point out the use of the term terrorist in connection to US servicemen. That was your accusation.

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Of course negotiation is a tool. But it must be fair. And that's where public unions fail miserably. Your defense of public unions is a reflection of your brainwashing by the leftwing.
Help yourself to some more!

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Old 06-01-2011, 04:28 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Talking can you say, "cognitive dissonance"?

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The usual right wing assumption is that they are the patriots. They are the defenders of the republic. They are the glue that holds America together.

If that's the case, I have some inconsistencies to point out.

1. Why is it that these right wing talk jocks "support the military" yet none of them has served a single day; indeed some went to lengths to avoid service.
2. How is daily spouting aimed at angering their audience with divisive half-truths and mischaracterizations at helpful to America? Portraying fellow Americans as enemies is hardly patriotic in any sense. It's demagoguery, pure and simple.
3. Fostering a "no compromise" mindset is the opposite of political activity. It results in deadlock. Politics is the art of compromise.
4. While falling over each other to denounce unions, these guys are union members themselves.

Rush Limbaugh « reality-based world

It's humorous how right wingers don't even see their hypocrisy as even a slight inconsistency. All of their big talking uberpatriots are in reality a coop full of chickenhawks.

Who served?

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Old 06-01-2011, 04:29 PM
 
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The usual right wing assumption is that they are the patriots. They are the defenders of the republic. They are the glue that holds America together.

If that's the case, I have some inconsistencies to point out.

1. Why is it that these right wing talk jocks "support the military" yet none of them has served a single day; indeed some went to lengths to avoid service.
2. How is daily spouting aimed at angering their audience with divisive half-truths and mischaracterizations at helpful to America? Portraying fellow Americans as enemies is hardly patriotic in any sense. It's demagoguery, pure and simple.
3. Fostering a "no compromise" mindset is the opposite of political activity. It results in deadlock. Politics is the art of compromise.
4. While falling over each other to denounce unions, these guys are union members themselves.

Rush Limbaugh « reality-based world
The answer is simple. These guys are in it for the money.
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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So...If I believe that workers should be in charge of profits instead of selfish CEOs and top level investors, and I believe that everyone has the right to visit a hospital without worry of debt, I'm un-American?
You are free to start your own business , there are many government regulations , permits and fees but after taxes the profits will be all yours.

Also , you can someday after saving the profits from your company , buy a hospital and let everyone visit free of charge .

Please don't take the money I worked hard to earn , I would like to save my profits to donate to the charity of my choice .
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Old 06-01-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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The usual right wing assumption is that they are the patriots. They are the defenders of the republic. They are the glue that holds America together.
They sure give a lot of the money they earn to fine charities , off the top of my head , I could be wrong , but
Rush gives millions to cancer research .
Hannity gives millions to children of fallen soldiers .
Levin I know less about but I think he gave a bunch to animal rescue when he wrote the book for his dog . I give thousands to cat rescue each year . I wish I had millions to give.

How much do you Libs give of your money ? Nothing I bet.
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Old 06-01-2011, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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They are ferengi who will do anything as long as there is profit in it
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Old 06-01-2011, 05:20 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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They sure give a lot of the money they earn to fine charities , off the top of my head , I could be wrong , but
Rush gives millions to cancer research .
Hannity gives millions to children of fallen soldiers .
Levin I know less about but I think he gave a bunch to animal rescue when he wrote the book for his dog . I give thousands to cat rescue each year . I wish I had millions to give.

How much do you Libs give of your money ? Nothing I bet.

If I had millions, I'd give a lot to some worthy causes and maybe even fund a scholarship or two.

But I don't have millions. I'm getting by, but that's all.

You?
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Those guys don't hate America or Americans; they hate the Democrats whose insatiable appetitie for raising taxes on everybody so that public union employees can get obscene benefits that companies such as P&G, Southwest Airlines, Caterpillar and tons of other very well-run companies could never offer without going out of business is unconscionable.

Obama's accelerating war against the middle class (cash for clunkers, war against WalMart, ObamaCare, Dodd-Frank, refusal to rein in frivolous malpractice lawsuits, refusal to slash taxes to jumpstart the economy, avalanches of new regulations for every sector of the country, interference with Boeing management regarding new plant in South Carolina) is unprecedented in our nation's history.

The fact that he and his Democrats to believe that we Democrats can spend your tax dollars better than you can, in spite of the abject failure that the 'stimulus' package was freeks of condescension, not to mention irrefutable ignorance regarding how to grow an economy.

There's no evidence that Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly & the others want America to become totally dependent on the government; America isn't Europe, yet Obama is unquestionably obssessed with doing just that.

Quintessential Democratic policy laboratory--Detroit, Michigan, their self-created hellhole.

Quintessential Republican policy laboratory---Austin, Texas, aka The Deep South/Southwest version of Silicon Valley.
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Old 06-02-2011, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Those guys don't hate America or Americans; they hate the Democrats whose insatiable appetitie for raising taxes on everybody so that public union employees can get obscene benefits that companies such as P&G, Southwest Airlines, Caterpillar and tons of other very well-run companies could never offer without going out of business is unconscionable.

Obama's accelerating war against the middle class (cash for clunkers, war against WalMart, ObamaCare, Dodd-Frank, refusal to rein in frivolous malpractice lawsuits, refusal to slash taxes to jumpstart the economy, avalanches of new regulations for every sector of the country, interference with Boeing management regarding new plant in South Carolina) is unprecedented in our nation's history.

The fact that he and his Democrats to believe that we Democrats can spend your tax dollars better than you can, in spite of the abject failure that the 'stimulus' package was freeks of condescension, not to mention irrefutable ignorance regarding how to grow an economy.

There's no evidence that Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly & the others want America to become totally dependent on the government; America isn't Europe, yet Obama is unquestionably obssessed with doing just that.

Quintessential Democratic policy laboratory--Detroit, Michigan, their self-created hellhole.

Quintessential Republican policy laboratory---Austin, Texas, aka The Deep South/Southwest version of Silicon Valley.

a poisoned mind is NOT a pretty thing.
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