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Old 07-08-2011, 10:23 PM
 
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Ship out the worthless folks who live off the backs of the rest of us. I'd say that equates to about 40% of the population. Drop the dead weight and things just might start looking up.
Not if you send them somewhere else. You need to exterminate them.

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Old 07-08-2011, 11:28 PM
 
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For the sake of argument, lets assume that tax increases hurt the economy and tax cuts hurt the economy.

What are some of the things that can be done to create jobs that does not involve reduction on spending or increases on taxes?

A large problem is the trade deficit.

Below are graphs that show the trade decit and trading partners, as you can see, the wheels started falling of about the same time that our deficit started getting larger. There is certainly a correlation.

The US Trade Deficit

How do we fix the trade deficit? I have not heard either side addressing this problem.
if we are going to fix our ecconomy, and get the people back to work, then we need to get government out of the way. eliminate regulations that are contradictory or do nothing, or are out dated. eliminate obamacare, and the new financial reform law and reinstate the glass-steagle act. if we can make the business environment more friendly and less expensive to operate in, then business can do the job that they do so well, make money. and when a business makes enough money, they need to expand, and thus hire more employees, which increases the tax base, which means MORE revenue to the government.

but we also have to cut back on government spending big time, and we need to reform the tax code. simplify it, eliminate many personal deductions, and as many loopholes as legitimately possible, and then you can cut the tax rates for everyone, and then sit back and watch the economy take off. we can keep the trade agreements we have with other countries.

one more thing we need to do is strengthen the dollar, not a lot, but enough to where the world regains confidence in the dollar again.
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:28 AM
 
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We need to change the ratio between debt and income. We don’t have enough income to service the debt we have. We need more savings. With more savings comes less consumption and more production, balanced trade. We need cash to spend. Printing money and giving it to everyone to spend will tend to drive employment. The government has outgrown its tax base, so we need a bigger tax base or a smaller government or both.

So upping the minimum wage to $30/hr

Starting a national savings program in banks not the stock market.

Taxing the payment of debts.

And giving people money to spend.

Those four things will get the economy growing sustainable.
This will probably be the qickest way for the economy to bounce back. But it wont happen...
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:31 AM
 
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Sigh, The government doesn't create jobs, the private sector does. The government can only create an environment that is friendly or hostile business and thus job creation.
Then why do you republicans always cry about Obama not creating jobs? Either your are free market or you are not, you can't have it both ways.
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:32 AM
 
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One of the biggest drivers will be Real Estate. We have to purge this junk through the system and we've still got years to go. Once that issue is cleared up, it will help tremendously.
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Old 07-09-2011, 06:58 AM
 
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:00 AM
 
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Then why do you republicans always cry about Obama not creating jobs? Either your are free market or you are not, you can't have it both ways.
If there was no government at all people would create a market place so the default position is people will do business.

Now add a government and regulations and taxes and etc. The only thing that does is trade freedom for security and their security is really starting to suck.
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:02 AM
 
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Not if you send them somewhere else. You need to exterminate them.

And no I didn't really mean that. It was just to prove a point.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:19 AM
 
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Not if you send them somewhere else. You need to exterminate them.


What would Jesus say?
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:23 AM
 
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What would Jesus say?
He would have read down to post 108.
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