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Old 07-19-2011, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Did the poll include if they approved or disapproved of the way Democrats in Congress were handling the negotiations on the debt ceiling? I would be willing to bet the Democrats do not get better marks on this. I see it as a frustration with everyone involved. 2012 is going to end up with which choice is the lesser of the two evils in the opinion of a lot of Americans.
Yes, it did as a matter of fact. It also inculded how people rated Obama's contrinution. None of them got positive ratings, but GOP fared worst of the bunch.

 
Old 07-19-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Yes, it did as a matter of fact. It also inculded how people rated Obama's contrinution. None of them got positive ratings, but GOP fared worst of the bunch.
I could see why, but yes, I also saw they all did poorly. The GOP was voted in during the midterm election to perform miracles of sorts. Stop the spending, increase jobs, and not raise taxes; all while only having one house of Congress. Now we have some GOP members talking about performing politics as usual, trading a deal now for a deal later type of thing (e.g. McConnell plan). I can't imagine right leaning voters being happy with that at all. In addition, there seems to be too willing an attitude to shift away from meaningful spending cuts to symbolic spending cuts, which is really all that Obama is offering.

If the Democrats actually want to retain leadership, then they need to actually show leadership and offer a concrete plan. Thus far, their position has been to simply knock holes in other's plans. How is that leadership?
 
Old 07-19-2011, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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The GOP was voted in during the midterm election to perform miracles of sorts. Stop the spending, increase jobs, and not raise taxes; all while only having one house of Congress.
lol...

No. They weren't.

None of these would be considered a miracle.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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lol...

No. They weren't.

None of these would be considered a miracle.
With Democrats opposing them with a vehemence that boggles the mind, yeah, I would consider it a miracle if they were able to get it done with just the House.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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With Democrats opposing them with a vehemence that boggles the mind, yeah, I would consider it a miracle if they were able to get it done with just the House.

lol...

Interesting what passes for a miracle these days.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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lol...

Interesting what passes for a miracle these days.
Yes, tongue in cheek there, but I think the point was made.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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So the goal of the GOP is not to fix the budget problems but to take down Obama.

Yep...Mitch Mac clearly said it was their job to make him a one-term president, and that's all the work they intend to do. Of course, they're still collecting their paychecks and benefiting from the type of excellent health care system that they apparently think is too good for the rest of us..a pretty sweet gig if you can one. Yet I hear no complaints from the right about our "Welfare Congress."
 
Old 07-19-2011, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Yep...Mitch Mac clearly said it was their job to make him a one-term president, and that's all the work they intend to do. Of course, they're still collecting their paychecks and benefiting from the type of excellent health care system that they apparently think is too good for the rest of us..a pretty sweet gig if you can one. Yet I hear no complaints from the right about our "Welfare Congress."
The right were totally against Obamacare and there's plenty of posts in this forum going back pointing out that the unions and Congress had exempted themselves so how good could Obamacare have been.

It was the Dems that totally ignored that point and embraced Obamacare.
Boy did you turn that one around but quick. Go back to old posts and see..the Dems were just fine and dandy with the unions/Congress exempt.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 03:23 PM
 
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Of course, they're still collecting their paychecks and benefiting from the type of excellent health care system that they apparently think is too good for the rest of us..a pretty sweet gig if you can one. Yet I hear no complaints from the right about our "Welfare Congress."
Can you tell me what Congress' excellent health care system is? How is it different from the other federal employees (who have regular health insurance like most people who have it through their employer).
 
Old 07-19-2011, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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The right were totally against Obamacare and there's plenty of posts in this forum going back pointing out that the unions and Congress had exempted themselves so how good could Obamacare have been.

It was the Dems that totally ignored that point and embraced Obamacare.
Boy did you turn that one around but quick. Go back to old posts and see..the Dems were just fine and dandy with the unions/Congress exempt.

Health care reform was a cornerstone of Obama's platform, and many voted for him for that very reason...it took more than simply the Democratic vote for him to win so handily. Of course the right was against it...it doesn't benefit the AMA, big pharma or the insurance companies. But thanks to the idiots who put ideology before the well-being of their fellow Americans, we'll never know what Obamacare would have been like.
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