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Old 09-26-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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In case you haven't been around this country, not everyone speaks the same as you. You are basically saying anyone that doesn't have a network standard accent shouldn't be able to teach.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:33 AM
 
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If someone has passed all the tests/qualifications required to teach that language then I don't see why not? Yes, I had teachers with accents in college. Oh noes. I still am lol'ing about the OP's "OMG The teacher was whining!!!!"
Reading comprehension is your friend, dear. She didn't pass. She filed a complaint alleging discrimination because she couldn't meet reasonable state standards:

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It was Ms. Aguayo’s principal and not the state monitors who first questioned her accent and suggested that she join Mr. Krieger’s class, Ms. Aguayo said. Because she was told that state policy forbade her to teach students who were learning English, she has filed a complaint with the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.
This is ridiculous. In the name of political correctness we're being asked to compromise the education of our children. Let her go teach Spanish since she's obviously fluent in that language.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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In case you haven't been around this country, not everyone speaks the same as you. You are basically saying anyone that doesn't have a network standard accent shouldn't be able to teach.
Again reading comprehension is your friend.

What I said was that if she cannot meet the standards in place she has no business teaching. We test English fluency all the time. Or do you find that discriminatory as well? Should we just abolish ANY standards at all and let anyone teach in the public schools?

Our kids should not be sacrificed on the alter of political correctness.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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Yeah quote the part of your story where it states she failed any test required to teach including an English proficiency test. Accents, or lack thereof, aren't a requirement to teach anywhere btw which is why:
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Arizona, recently made a sharp about-face on the issue.A federal investigation of possible civil rights violations prompted the state to call off its accent police.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:44 AM
 
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Our kids should not be sacrificed on the alter of political correctness.
This is hilarious. My best teacher in college was an Indian who I could barely understand for the first 2 weeks. It got easier as the class went on and I asked questions if I didn't understand something. I can honestly say, that person taught me more about the real world situations of my profession than ANY other teacher in my life and despite his accent, he is one of the most intelligent people I know to this day. Sounds to me like someone else is whining. I'm talking about the OP btw.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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I don't discriminate or nuthin', but if she had a heavy french accent, I'd say keep her on.

I wouldn't mind if my kids came home a little croissant in their expression.

It's those other accents I don't like.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:53 AM
 
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This is hilarious. My best teacher in college was an Indian who I could barely understand for the first 2 weeks. It got easier as the class went on and I asked questions if I didn't understand something. I can honestly say, that person taught me more about the real world situations of my profession than ANY other teacher in my life and despite his accent, he is one of the most intelligent people I know to this day. Sounds to me like someone else is whining. I'm talking about the OP btw.
One would assume that by the time students gets to college, they have a good grasp of the English language; written and spoken.

Put that same professor in front of a kindergarten or first grade class, and chances are the children will grow up NOT having a good grasp of our language.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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One would assume that by the time students gets to college, they have a good grasp of the English language; written and spoken.

Put that same professor in front of a kindergarten or first grade class, and chances are the children will grow up NOT having a good grasp of our language.
Yeah I'm going to need a citation for this string of assumptions. I could argue that the exposure to different cultures and accents makes the children easier able to understand different culture's accents. Kind of like I can understand Indian people with accents just fine but my grandmother who was never exposed to them growing up on a farm, can't understand a thing.
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:00 AM
 
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The article never said she wasn't fluent. What the article did say was that accents only became relevant once teachers had proven to be fluent.

It does smell that Arizona is the only state that does this. Am I supposed to believe all all 49 other states have English teachers who speak standard American network?
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Old 09-26-2011, 11:04 AM
 
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Exactly. She's spending eight hours a day with little kids. Part of her job is to model correct pronounciation for them. If she can't she should be fired. It's ridiculous how far too many posters seem to put her needs above the needs of our children.
Agree!

Same goes for Christian or Liberal accents.
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