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Old 09-27-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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Because they won't hire Americans. Also, a lot of fake jobs are advertised. I've heard of people applying for advertised jobs and being told that job has not been available for six months.
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Old 09-27-2011, 04:47 PM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Where I am the jobs are there but there is a catch -22.

There are jobs for minimally skilled workers that pay about $10-12 / hr. These are "machine operators" who pretty much babysit automated equipment and hit the red STOP button if it starts to squeal.

The GOOD jobs are for people with the skills along the lines of machinists. They pay $20 and up but require good math skills. A lot of manufacturing equipment has gotten so complicated, you need to understand, programming, mechanics, electricity etc to run it properly. And usually anyone who has the smarts to be able to profit from the training and be able to get a certificate is also smart enough to get into college.

So what do most kids do? They go to college. They don't go the vokie route.

I know some adults who have gotten certificates and training who have odd backgrounds, the oddest one is a guy who has a degree as a chef. He is smart, coulnd't find work, didn't have the capital to start his own restaurant, so he got himself training as a machinist. Now he has a good job. But not everyone can do it.
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:43 PM
 
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There is plenty of poor little me, if there is a will there is a way. Get your self a math book, take math online you obviously have the internet available. The people who have jobs are the ones that don't spend their day saying I can't. And that is the problem with this country the I can't out number the ones of that say I can. The I can minority is tired of supporting all of you. Get a job or be hungry, its as simple as that.
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Old 09-27-2011, 05:52 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I have been reading about the many manufacturing jobs available in this country, that are unfilled. Why is no one interested in doing this work? They are skilled jobs, of course your hands may get dirty, but people would be working. They stated the reason there are not more manufacturing jobs is we do not have the skilled workforce to fill them. These companies are begging for help,and many said they will train people.

It is high time people got off their high horse, thinking everyone should be a lawyer or doctor and get back to the real world and earn a living. I would like to see the government cancel all unemployment benefits until there was not a single open job position of any kind. Get out there and do something, to pay your own way, when I see things available, and people still complaining about the lack of jobs I have no sympathy for any of them. People are sorry who think so many jobs are below them, but accepting a government handout is not.
Given that you appear to be a Conservative, making that same old argument that people like blacks are unwilling to work, but only willing to live off Welfare, I don't believe your assertion that there are many manufacturing jobs around the country that are sitting unfulfilled.

More likely, companies are striving to maximize profits by overwhelmingly favoring foreign labor over qualified Americans. This is the Conservative way, and the only way it can be immediately remedied is by having President Obama as President with a Congress that is controlled by Democrats. The GOP cannot solve this problem and didn't do so the last time that had a chance when Bush was in office for those 8 horrific years. The situation is worse now for the GOP because they have been severely downgraded by their tea part branch.

Stay tuned for President Obama's second term, a term where he will enjoy the absence of Republican obstructionism in a Congress controlled by Democrats.
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Old 09-27-2011, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Given that you appear to be a Conservative, making that same old argument that people like blacks are unwilling to work, but only willing to live off Welfare, I don't believe your assertion that there are many manufacturing jobs around the country that are sitting unfulfilled.

More likely, companies are striving to maximize profits by overwhelmingly favoring foreign labor over qualified Americans. This is the Conservative way, and the only way it can be immediately remedied is by having President Obama as President with a Congress that is controlled by Democrats. The GOP cannot solve this problem and didn't do so the last time that had a chance when Bush was in office for those 8 horrific years. The situation is worse now for the GOP because they have been severely downgraded by their tea part branch.

Stay tuned for President Obama's second term, a term where he will enjoy the absence of Republican obstructionism in a Congress controlled by Democrats.

That's certainly an interesting take. So then why was Obama unable to achieve this utopia that he is purportedly capeable of when his party had a majority in both chambers for the first two years of his one and only term?
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:28 AM
 
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I have been reading about the many manufacturing jobs available in this country, that are unfilled. Why is no one interested in doing this work? They are skilled jobs, of course your hands may get dirty, but people would be working. They stated the reason there are not more manufacturing jobs is we do not have the skilled workforce to fill them. These companies are begging for help,and many said they will train people.

It is high time people got off their high horse, thinking everyone should be a lawyer or doctor and get back to the real world and earn a living. I would like to see the government cancel all unemployment benefits until there was not a single open job position of any kind. Get out there and do something, to pay your own way, when I see things available, and people still complaining about the lack of jobs I have no sympathy for any of them. People are sorry who think so many jobs are below them, but accepting a government handout is not.

What if there are jobs available on the graveyard shift and you don't have a car to get to them?
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:30 AM
 
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That's certainly an interesting take. So then why was Obama unable to achieve this utopia that he is purportedly capeable of when his party had a majority in both chambers for the first two years of his one and only term?
Racism, George Bush, and the Tea Party.
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:42 AM
 
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My brother had a clogged drain (the clog was somewhere near the main). He called a plumber who fixed it in 5 minutes for $300!!

[that's money!]

The drains in Spain clog mainly near the main.
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Earth
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We have people in politics, unions, and schools filling kids' heads with propaganda that claims that, without a college diploma, you can't amount to anything.
Sounds like you have an agenda.

And we have, more dangerous indeed, those who fill a kid's head that educaition isn't important, that they're the dreaded "elite" and evil.

It's a college degree, not diploma.
Diplomas are high school; certificates of completion.

BTW, aren't most unions blue collar?

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There ARE no jobs.

And, yes, people spending money does stimulate the economy, whether it comes from jobs or unemployment benefits.

Of course, jobs are preferable. No one will dispute that.

It's just that...

There ARE no jobs.
I don't seem to have trouble finding work.
If there are no jobs, why do people continue breeding?
Kind of increases the problem, don't you think?
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Old 09-28-2011, 01:55 AM
 
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No I don't think it's more complicated. It's rather simple. If you want to work get a job.

What if you apply for jobs and nobody will hire you? Were you assuming that everyone who wants to work can get a job?

More than 90% of the people who applied at McDonald's this year were not hired.
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