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Such a system only works in the long term, generation after generation. So, if you pay someone else's tuition today, they will later on get a good job and in turn pay your kid's tuition, and so on.
What if I don't want to send my kids to college and want to use the money for something different? Your system would allow less economic freedom.
Yes I know. Every German says, "That is not the case." I think that is part of your Abitur.
It is indeed the case. Were it not the case, then almost everyone would go.
Come on Neuling. You can fool some of these leftist clowns here. But don't ever try it with me.
Tschuess.
Sorry, but German universities are not elitist at all, quite to the contrary. Although I am not a big fan of Germany, I do think their approach to education is pretty good. There are laws aimed at preventing money from being an obstacle to education.
The only elitist aspect is GPA, and that only in the case of some more sought-after programs and the half dozen or so excellent universities (Aachen, Heidelberg, etc.).
And no matter how old you are and what your cv looks like, if you are ambitious enough you can still attend university at age 60 via one of several alternative paths to higher education.
Why does not everyone attend university? Because it is not necessary, there are alternatives that unlike in the US are not considered inferior. Some people are simply not made for academics, and those who realize it early enough are actually quite fortunate.
Sorry, but German universities are not elitist at all, quite to the contrary. Although I am not a big fan of Germany, I do think their approach to education is pretty good. There are laws aimed at preventing money from being an obstacle to education.
The only elitist aspect is GPA, and that only in the case of some more sought-after programs and the half dozen or so excellent universities.
And no matter how old you are and what your cv looks like, if you are ambitious enough you can still attend university at age 60 via one of several alternative paths to higher education.
Why does not everyone attend university? Because it is not necessary, there are alternatives that unlike in the US are not considered inferior. Some people are simply not made for academics, and those who realize it early enough are actually quite fortunate.
That's not the case. Anyone can go to college as long as they meet the official requirements. You can still obtain those when you are 30 or 50 and decide you want to attend university after all.
Former chancellor Schröder for instance got his college admission qualification long after high school, he had worked for years before deciding to embark on the academic path.
But that is entirely the case. I looked around and the German university rate is <20% (correct me if I'm wrong) which is wayyyyyy lower than in the US.
Under the German system the guy in the video would almost certainly not qualify for "free university".
The private university system in germany is something like 6% and growing.
Here in the US you have a much higher % attending and the top students get scholarships, grants etc. My gf for example....very poor....paid NOTHING for her college and even got aid for books etc.
The bottom line is that Germany is using vastly more stringent admission requirements before you get your "free" education. In both countries more average students can decide to pay to attend a school.
What if I don't want to send my kids to college and want to use the money for something different? Your system would allow less economic freedom.
Sure, it is based on another mindset, one where society as a whole is considered important, which I like.
Sometimes when I see children playing I am happy to think that with my tax money I contribute to their future. Giving is better than taking or keeping
" Thar Be No Shortage Of Idjits Amongst This Bunch" ! .....
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Originally Posted by sanrene
Here is the epitome, the poster boy, of the OWS mentality.
He hasn't a CLUE what he is talking about, hasn't a CLUE how to articulate his position(s), hasn't a CLUE of the actual tax rates/statistics for corporations/individuals.
What an idiot.
You just have to watch and suffer through til the end.
But that is entirely the case. I looked around and the German university rate is <20% (correct me if I'm wrong) which is wayyyyyy lower than in the US.
Under the German system the guy in the video would almost certainly not qualify for "free university".
The private university system in germany is something like 6% and growing.
Here in the US you have a much higher % attending and the top students get scholarships, grants etc. My gf for example....very poor....paid NOTHING for her college and even got aid for books etc.
The bottom line is that Germany is using vastly more stringent admission requirements before you get your "free" education. In both countries more average students can decide to pay to attend a school.
Germans like to think they have a very egalitarian system. Quite the contrary, it is actually very Class Static. Amost as bad as the UK.
What if I don't want to send my kids to college and want to use the money for something different? Your system would allow less economic freedom.
doesn't matter what you want to do it is the kid's choice, they choose college you don't. You just end up paying for some of it(or if you are spoiling your kids, all)
But that is entirely the case. I looked around and the German university rate is <20% (correct me if I'm wrong) which is wayyyyyy lower than in the US.
Under the German system the guy in the video would almost certainly not qualify for "free university".
The private university system in germany is something like 6% and growing.
Here in the US you have a much higher % attending and the top students get scholarships, grants etc. My gf for example....very poor....paid NOTHING for her college and even got aid for books etc.
The bottom line is that Germany is using vastly more stringent admission requirements before you get your "free" education. In both countries more average students can decide to pay to attend a school.
Of course, there is no need to attend college in Germany, thus the percentage with degrees is much lower. Why would I endure studying for years if I hate studying and am more into something else like making violins or whatever? In the US attending college is much more important as there are few sophisticated alternatives.
Yes, as I said GPA is the only real obstacle to college. I remember that when I was about to enter university speaking Latin was still a requirement But I guess they have changed that meanwhile.
I don't know if the guy from the video would have gotten into college in Germany, depends on the subject. Maybe he is smarter than that unfortunate video suggests
I'd wager 60-70% of 'protesters' either didn't graduate from high school or graduated thanks to social promotion.
Point being, k-12 education is "free," at least to them... and they couldn't make a go of it.
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" Thar Be No Shortage Of Idjits Amongst This Bunch" ! .....
But I guess they have changed that meanwhile.
