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Old 10-27-2011, 02:34 PM
 
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I do not deny you your right to have that opinion ... but don't denigrate me or other Americans who are pro-choice, because you are exposing your intolerant and bigoted streak.

Hmmm. Bigoted?

These are the people you decide to diminish?

The people that deserve to be snuggled, and loved, and cuddled. NOT KILLED.


Thankfully. And admitted by YOU. Killing is BETTER than Living.


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Old 10-27-2011, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Hmmm. Bigoted?

These are the people you decide to diminish?

The people that deserve to be snuggled, and loved, and cuddled. NOT KILLED.


Thankfully. And admitted by YOU. Killing is BETTER than Living.

Perhaps YOU need to view an ultrasound.....THAT is not a FETUS!
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Old 10-27-2011, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Perhaps YOU need to view an ultrasound.....THAT is not a FETUS!
Probably because the Eagle Forum got ahold of the local school board, so that poster didn't receive comprehensive sex education. Before Roe v Wade, doctors just performed a D & C, no questions asked. There was no issue of anything as patently ridiculous as letting a mother die rather than have a late-term abortion.
Roe v Wade benefited poor and middle class women; the wealthy simply sent their daughters abroad for a legal abortion. Those who beat their chests about the sanctity of the life of a fetus have undoubtedly never had to deal with an unwanted or dangerous pregnancy...attitudes change when the issue hits home.
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Old 10-27-2011, 03:13 PM
 
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Okay, I get it. You are for abolishing and therefore criminalizing abortion. Fair enough, you are entitled to your opinion.

But ... understand this: legal abortion is the law because the American system of justice, based on the US Constitution demanded it. After countless hours of legal argument, debate, and carefully considered rulings based on the Constitution.

Roe V. Wade was argued before the US Supreme Court in 1971, re-argued in 1972, and the final decision legalizing abortion came about in 1973. Nearly 40 years have passed. Attempts to overturn have failed. It is the law of the land.

What disturbs me is your complete contempt for folks like me that do not share your view. I am a goat? (Not a thinking intelligent human being and a voting tax-paying citizen?) In my opinion, you are just a parrot: repeating some kind of religious dogma about when personhood begins, and the limitations of what a woman has when it comes to pregnancy. I do not deny you your right to have that opinion ... but don't denigrate me or other Americans who are pro-choice, because you are exposing your intolerant and bigoted streak.
Kudos to you for a great post.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:02 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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WTH are you talking about? NO ONE has ever said a woman should be forced to have an abortion. Women are allowed to choose to die rather than abort if that is what they want.... and some do. Women are allowed to give birth to horribly deformed fetuses if that is what they want. Staunch pro-lifers have chosen to give birth to babies without a brain for crying out loud.....just so they can hold it and bond with it.

Seriously, you need to seek counseling.....you are starting to imagine things.
Things sure do fly over your head...

By arbitrarily deciding to restrict women from being able to have an abortion in a certain time period,you are indeed forcing women in that situation to go to dangerous back alley abortionists and to risk death or injury.

Do you understand now...

YOU and those like you want to control when a woman can choose,you are,in effect as bad as those who want to ban abortion outright.

The only difference between you and those who favor an outright ban is a matter of degree.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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You really hate America, don't you?

You despise the American system of justice, the Constitution, and the Supreme Court, don't you?
LOL....

I think it is spelled Ummerika....

Love all the closet xenophobes popping up in this thread.


I despise stupidity,and half assedness....hence despise a lot of the laws in the USA and a lot of Americans who blindly bleat on about ''it's the law,it's the law''....
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:08 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Originally Posted by Clark Park View Post
Okay, I get it. You are for abolishing and therefore criminalizing abortion. Fair enough, you are entitled to your opinion.

But ... understand this: legal abortion is the law because the American system of justice, based on the US Constitution demanded it. After countless hours of legal argument, debate, and carefully considered rulings based on the Constitution.

Roe V. Wade was argued before the US Supreme Court in 1971, re-argued in 1972, and the final decision legalizing abortion came about in 1973. Nearly 40 years have passed. Attempts to overturn have failed. It is the law of the land.

What disturbs me is your complete contempt for folks like me that do not share your view. I am a goat? (Not a thinking intelligent human being and a voting tax-paying citizen?) In my opinion, you are just a parrot: repeating some kind of religious dogma about when personhood begins, and the limitations of what a woman has when it comes to pregnancy. I do not deny you your right to have that opinion ... but don't denigrate me or other Americans who are pro-choice, because you are exposing your intolerant and bigoted streak.
Wrong.

Why would I NOT have contempt for those who want to restrict a woman's right just a little....that is worse than those who want an outright ban.

Have some courage and at least want abortion to be the woman's right for the ENTIRE gestation period....
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:09 PM
 
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Hmmm. Bigoted?

These are the people you decide to diminish?

The people that deserve to be snuggled, and loved, and cuddled. NOT KILLED.


Thankfully. And admitted by YOU. Killing is BETTER than Living.

I've got pictures too........




If you love babies that much, have as many as you like. Just stay out of other people's business.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:24 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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How is looking at an utlrasound controlling someone?

What is the worst case scenario of a woman looking at an ultrasound,she doesn't have an abortion?

It seems pro-abortionists don't like the idea of a woman changing her mind.

The entire premise of pro choice is that the woman decides.

Not you.

Not the government.

Not me.

Not Pat Robertson.

It's the woman's pregnancy. It should be her call. No one else's.
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Old 10-27-2011, 04:43 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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The entire premise of pro choice is that the woman decides.

Not you.

Not the government.

Not me.

Not Pat Robertson.

It's the woman's pregnancy. It should be her call. No one else's.
Except in the third trimester.

Then it is the government's business.

Weird huh?
And most of those who are supposedly 'pro-choice' certainly aren't,they just favor banning abortion for three months.
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