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Old 10-27-2011, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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What a load of Rubbish!
Up to a certain point in a pregnancy, all that is happening is the cells are dividing...... NO cells are yet specialised or indeed become any form of life.
Your Appendix is far more a living thing than the cells dividing during the very early stages of pregnancy.
Women do NOT take a termination lightly...... Only men do because men do NOT go through a abortion or even the mental anguish of a unwanted pregnancy.
It is no one elses business if a Woman has a termination or not...... so to ALL of the pro lifers out there.......... Keep your nose out of other peoples grief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A "termination"? Like the one in Philly?

If you presume to speak for all women, what do you say about the two young animals in the story, with their toilet and their scissors?

Not taking it LIGHTLY? What planet are you from? Venus, I assume -- cold, pale, damp, and dead.

Knock off the hysterical punctuation and admit it: Roe vee Wade has created a climate of callousness and selfishness, and reduced the notion of love to a legal dispute.

Forty years of mass infanticide. Generations of women trained to think of a child as a hindrance to their aspirations to paradoxically emulate the men they despise so cordially. Any wonder America is choking on the karma?
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Old 10-27-2011, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Your type would have supported separate but equal and segregation....

Sickening how easily you are willing to give others rights away.

Viability has no bearing upon the woman,it has nothing to do with her body.
This is utterly specious; it has everything to do with the woman (or girl's) body because the fetus is attached to said body via the umbilical cord, which takes nutrients and antibodies from the uterus to the fetus. That being said, have you ever seen a baby born with the brain and spinal cord outside the skull and spinal column? Have you ever seen an infant with shaken baby syndrome? Greenstick fractures from beatings? Burned with cigarettes? As a nurse I saw all of the above and more; there's no way that a loving God would want an innocent child to suffer in such ways. It's been made implicitly clear to you; now it's just trolling. Rape, incest, the mother's health or accident, the decision will never be yours to make. As Rita Mordio says, when we can keep a fetus alive through a medical uterus (or donor uterus), the issue will be moot. How about we neuter males at 13, while keeping frozen sperm samples? Then when he's older, in a stable marriage and financially able, the sperm can be withdrawn and a wanted pregnancy will occur. That takes the onus from the woman and makes it an issue of agreement between partners, and pro-lifers (as if anyone is "pro-death") can find a different control issue to obsess over.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:02 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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A "termination"? Like the one in Philly?

If you presume to speak for all women, what do you say about the two young animals in the story, with their toilet and their scissors?

Not taking it LIGHTLY? What planet are you from? Venus, I assume -- cold, pale, damp, and dead.

Knock off the hysterical punctuation and admit it: Roe vee Wade has created a climate of callousness and selfishness, and reduced the notion of love to a legal dispute.

Forty years of mass infanticide. Any wonder America is chokiing on the karma?
PUUUUUULLLLLLEEEEEEEAAAASSSSSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More deaths from guns than terminations....... go lobby against guns.
As i said before........ up to a certain point in a pregnancy...NO LIFE HAS BEEN FORMED..... got it yet NO LIFE.... just cells dividing.
Now anyone can find awful cases of bad terminations but with proper regulation the women can go get a early termination wich meand NO loss of life and NO unwanted child that lives a life of living hell.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:09 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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This is utterly specious; it has everything to do with the woman (or girl's) body because the fetus is attached to said body via the umbilical cord, which takes nutrients and antibodies from the uterus to the fetus. That being said, have you ever seen a baby born with the brain and spinal cord outside the skull and spinal column? Have you ever seen an infant with shaken baby syndrome? Greenstick fractures from beatings? Burned with cigarettes? As a nurse I saw all of the above and more; there's no way that a loving God would want an innocent child to suffer in such ways. It's been made implicitly clear to you; now it's just trolling. Rape, incest, the mother's health or accident, the decision will never be yours to make. As Rita Mordio says, when we can keep a fetus alive through a medical uterus (or donor uterus), the issue will be moot. How about we neuter males at 13, while keeping frozen sperm samples? Then when he's older, in a stable marriage and financially able, the sperm can be withdrawn and a wanted pregnancy will occur. That takes the onus from the woman and makes it an issue of agreement between partners, and pro-lifers (as if anyone is "pro-death") can find a different control issue to obsess over.
What are you going on about?

I am not the one posting support for restricting a woman's right to a third trimester abortion,that is the so called pro-choice types here.

A right is just that,it doesn't require asking for permission.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:20 PM
 
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What are you going on about?

I am not the one posting support for restricting a woman's right to a third trimester abortion,that is the so called pro-choice types here.

A right is just that,it doesn't require asking for permission.

trying to give the impression that you don't support restrictions on abortion is bogus. side stepping the difference between a fetus of 6 weeks and one at 8 months is obtuse at best. your protests fool no one
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:23 PM
 
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please, dramatic photos of a late term abortion will change no ones mind that is pro choice. most all abortions are done in the first trimester when the fetus looks nothing like the picture you posted. don't want an abortion don't have one. that is why it is called choice
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:23 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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trying to give the impression that you don't support restrictions on abortion is bogus. side stepping the difference between a fetus of 6 weeks and one at 8 months is obtuse at best. your protests fool no one
You favor restricting a woman's choice,the only difference between you and those who stand outside of abortion clinics is a few degrees.

The fetus is irrelevant to a woman's right to her own body.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:29 PM
 
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You favor restricting a woman's choice,the only difference between you and those who stand outside of abortion clinics is a few degrees.

The fetus is irrelevant to a woman's right to her own body.
your post dance around what you really feel, you don't answer questions just evade them.

first trimester and 3rd is more then a few degrees.

you are right the fetus is irrelevant as it is there only if the woman wants it there.

trying to cast pro choice in the same camp as anti choice protesters outside an abortion clinic doesn't fly.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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your post dance around what you really feel, you don't answer questions just evade them.
You didn't ask a question.

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first trimester and 3rd is more then a few degrees.
What is in between those two....stats with a 'S'...what IS it????

And it matters little what trimester to the woman and her rights.


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you are right the fetus is irrelevant as it is there only if the woman wants it there.
Except people like you support restricting the woman's choice.

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trying to cast pro choice in the same camp as anti choice protesters outside an abortion clinic doesn't fly.
They favor restricting abortion for all nine months.
You and your type support restricting abortion for three months.

A matter of degree.

I support NO federal government involvement in the issue,it is not the government's business.
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Old 10-27-2011, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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your post dance around what you really feel, you don't answer questions just evade them.

first trimester and 3rd is more then a few degrees.

you are right the fetus is irrelevant as it is there only if the woman wants it there.

trying to cast pro choice in the same camp as anti choice protesters outside an abortion clinic doesn't fly.

It's photo-shopped; doctors don't usually photograph their work. If a pro-life
physician did this, he's far worse than a pregnant woman with eclampsia or
gestational hypertension. It's a sick post from a sick mind.
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