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View Poll Results: Do you feel it is correct to teach children that homosexuality is normal and natural?
Yes 292 50.34%
No 256 44.14%
I am unsure 32 5.52%
Voters: 580. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-01-2012, 09:34 AM
 
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it isn't about teaching anyone to HATE...it's about teaching TRUTH...not socially/politically correct CRAP.
Since when have anti-gays EVER cared about the truth?

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The fact is that homosexuality is NOT the norm...if it were, then a larger percentage of people would be gay. That DECIDEDLY is not the case. NORMAL is for man to be attracted to woman, and vice versa. There really isn't any other truth to it than that.
By that reasoning, it's also not normal to be left-handed, Jewish, or have a high IQ. Would you treat those people as harshly? Of course not. Uncommon doesn't mean wrong.

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Now...if you want to teach your kids that homosexuality DOES occur in a percentage of the population, and that they should be tolerant of gay people...then I have no problem with that. But to teach them that it is NORMAL is a LIE...and if you want to LIE to your kids, then 'KNOCK YOURSELF OUT'.
When we refer to normal, we're referring to the fact that homosexuality is a naturally occurring variant of animal/human sexuality. Normal doesn't necessarily mean common. And if you want to get technical, I'd say some degree, no matter how slight, of bisexuality is the most "normal", because sexuality is not 100% black and white.

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I am sick of the gay agenda and those of you left wing dopes that push the idea that homosexuality is NORMAL...it isn't.
Again you are making bizarre claims about the meaning of normal. All we're saying is, it exists in a small subset of the human population as well as most of the animal kingdom, and it's a natural variant of sexuality. Since all current scientific evidence shows it's largely, if not exclusively determined in pre-natal development, it cannot change in the overwhelming majority of people, and it's not due to any abnormal psychological condition, it's a normal human variant just like skin color, hand dominance, eye color, etc.

Perhaps we should stop using the term "normal" altogether and just use common or uncommon, since normal and abnormal have pejorative connotations. Homosexuality is natural, but uncommon among the human population. Heterosexuality is natural, and common (at least in practice) among the human population. Bisexuality is natural, and may very well in a strict attraction technical sense, be the most common.


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In other words...you advocate LYING to your kids. Congratulations....where should we send your PARENT OF THE YEAR award??
Parents lie to their kids all the time. Santa, tooth fairy, Hell, gays are evil, the earth is 6000 years old, evolution is false.
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:35 AM
 
Location: California
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Sunnysee linked to a piece of vile propaganda by an extremist anti-gay hate group called "Heterosexuals organized for a moral environment" and expected to be taken seriously.

H.O.M.E.'s Home Page

I wonder if she even bothered to check who they were.

I looked around their website and I was sickened by their obvious hatred for gay people. They dare to have a dove of peace as their symbol.
Well if any link no matter where or who it comes from doesn't support your opinion you will say it isn't liable, everyone knows that.
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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If they wanted a vagina they wouldn't go for the anus...duh



Orgasm is a natural biological function.

So is persperation...point?
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:37 AM
 
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HELL NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NEVER.
Right on! I plan on teaching my kids the same thing about Blacks. God told me they are the descendants of Cain and he cursed them, therefore they are inferior! That would explain why most violent crimes are committed by blacks, and why they are the majority of the prison population.

I'm glad we both agree on teaching our children the truth!
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The fact is homosexuality ain't normal. Guess what, abnormal people are also covered by the Constitution.
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:39 AM
 
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"On August 16 I learned what viral meant.

I wrote an essay about my oldest son and his love of a popular gay television character, Glee's Blaine, and how this crush led to him telling me he wanted to kiss boys, not girls. I naively posted it to a blog , thinking some fans of the show might think it was cute.

Within 24 hours it had been reposted and "liked" over 30,000 times on the blog's website. It wasn't long before messages started flooding in, other websites began posting it and people were commenting. The response was overwhelming positive. What I thought was a simple story about my kid and our family had clearly stuck a chord with a lot of people.

It also made some people uncomfortable. Of the criticisms, the most common is that my son is six years old and doesn't know anything about sex. While I fully acknowledge this may not be the end-all-and-be-all to my son's sexual orientation, I object to the idea that being gay is only about sexual acts. Our emotions and feelings, our attractions and compulsions, all contribute, not just our body parts. If my son had a crush on the star of iCarly, I doubt people would be saying he was too young to have those sexual feelings towards a girl. I think they would think it was an innocent schoolboy crush, which is exactly what it is.

Plus, for every comment I've read saying my son is too young, I have received multiple messages from adults saying "I knew when I was little, too."

It got me thinking and after awhile I started to feel like I knew this big secret that shouldn't be a secret at all: Every gay adult used to be a gay kid. It's not as if all children start off as straight until some time later when someone flips the gay switch. We are who we are from the very moment we are born.

The horrible and hate filled words of the Michele Bachmann's of the world take on a whole new level of disgusting when picturing them being screamed at a group of kindergartners and first graders. They are unnatural. They are sinners. They are going to hell. They are dirty, wrong and sick.

These people would tell my innocent little boy (who currently wants to be a fireman-ninja when he grows up) he is the biggest threat the American family... because he wants to kiss boys and not girls.

The reality is they are pounding these words of ignorance and hate into the ears and minds of gay children every day. And those children are hearing them. I know because many of those kids are now writing to me. Kids as young as 14 have sent me messages. So many are scared children, who sure as hell did not choose this for themselves, living in fear of their family finding out because they know full well what their mom and dad will say. And they tell me they wish I was their mom.

I want to keep all this talk, all these lies, all this hate, away from these kids. Of course, there is an inherent problem with that. We can't pick out the gay kids simply by looking, and behavior isn't a clear indicator (some little straight girls are tomboys, and some little gay boys love their monster trucks). The only way we can truly know someone's orientation is if they tell us, which for some doesn't happen until well into adulthood.

So the solution is obvious to me. Keep it away from all our kids. It's my responsibility as a mother, as a human being, to stand up and say "No more." No, you are not allowed to say those things in front of my children, not unless you want to deal with me. Because I will not allow any of my sons to be viciously attacked without seeing me defend them. They will never have to doubt for a second exactly where their parents stand, and never have to live in fear of who they are.

Because since August 16, I have learned that hate is the virus we all need to be worried about."


Lessons from Sharing the Story of My (Possibly) Gay 6-Year-Old Son
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Back and Forth FRANCE
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Right on! I plan on teaching my kids the same thing about Blacks. God told me they are the descendants of Cain and he cursed them, therefore they are inferior! That would explain why most violent crimes are committed by blacks, and why they are the majority of the prison population.

I'm glad we both agree on teaching our children the truth!
Hey thats your decision!
Sorry the whole "race" argument does not phase me one bit. ...Nice Try though.

But if MY Child's Teacher taught them the BS of "Homosexuality is normal and natural". I will transfer my kids out of that class if not the entire school. It would be tough for me not to beat the **** out of that teacher.

Luckily in my community, I'm pretty sure I wont have that issue. My community still has decent values.

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Old 01-01-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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Wrong. Thanks for proving you can't read or translate biblical paleo Hebrew.

The Hebrew phrase I posted was the 9th Commandment.

It translates in English as: "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour."
Lol, Finn knows nothing about the meaning of To'evah.

The KJV Uses of ?Abomination? - Bible Abuse Directed at Homosexuals

It refers to ritual impurity and applied exclusively to the Israelites. Eating bread with the Egyptians was "To'ebah". Eating unclean animals was "To'ebah". Wearing 2 types of fabric was "To'ebah".

Probably 90% or higher of the things listed in the Torah that are referred to as "To'ebah" are committed by Christians on a daily or weekly basis.
So why the double standard of holding gays to a higher standard than they hold themselves?
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Old 01-01-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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Well if any link no matter where or who it comes from doesn't support your opinion you will say it isn't liable, everyone knows that.
I guess you missed where I showed what the study the propaganda piece cited actually said, and exposed the misrepresentation? And showed that the poster lied about the piece being from the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA)?

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Old 01-01-2012, 09:56 AM
 
Location: California
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I guess you missed where I showed what the study the propaganda piece cited actually said, and exposed the misrepresentation? And showed that the poster lied about the piece being from the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA)?

I guessed you missed the point Whoooosh
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