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View Poll Results: Do you believe this is a new personality disorder?
Yes 20 20.20%
No 77 77.78%
Not Sure 2 2.02%
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Old 05-30-2015, 01:19 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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Nothing new.

*In general*, left are depressed and anxious, right are angry and paranoid.

 
Old 06-01-2015, 12:48 AM
 
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" . . Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) asks some pointed questions about HAARP. However, readers may not be surprised at the answers, but the mainstream media ought to be wiping oodles of egg yolk from its collective face."

Activist Post: Conspiracy Theorists Vindicated: HAARP Confirmed Weather-manipulation Tool
 
Old 06-01-2015, 07:38 AM
 
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Originally Posted by azriverfan. View Post
Regardless of their political leaning, have you noticed certain individuals have a proclivity toward certain beliefs that distrust established organizations or individuals? They are distrustful but not paranoid to the point that they are schizophrenics. For example, you can almost predict the beliefs of certain individuals on this forum based on their opinions of other topics. They seem to share a certain pattern of thinking.

-accusing others of being communists or socialists( or racists or homophobes)
-distrust of government in general( as well as law enforcement or one political party in particular)
-foreigners are a threat ( or that controlled immigration is unfair)
-distrust people of races outside of their own
-people of faiths outside of their own (or political beliefs outside their own)
-distrust the medical system ( or legal system)
-distrust the pharmaceutical industry
-distrust corporations
-patriotism means defying the government through illegal means if necessary due to distrust of government( or supporting the government in all its endeavors, even illegal or unjust ones)
-distrust the formal education system particularly colleges and universities( or believes that public education isn't getting enough funding)
-distrust of "mainstream" media( or " right wing" talk radio)

What is your opinion, do you think this is new psychological personality disorder?
>>>>> I had to fix the OP's list( in parenthesis) so its more complete and covers all the bases. It looks like with that list of beliefs, PRACTICALLY EVERYBODY is a conspiracy theorist and we almost all have that disorder. To the few that don't have it, I guess they're the happy ones content to believe whatever anybody tells them and don't worry about much of anything other than maybe sports or what's on TV or the latest music fad.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 01:58 PM
 
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Nothing new.

*In general*, left are depressed and anxious, right are angry and paranoid.
I'm all of those things.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 07:46 AM
 
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The old Soviet Union practised this rather effective technique of mind control to eliminate political/public opposition. If you didn't support the controlling gang and their plans ... if you didn't nod yes in response to every utterance from the propagandists ... if you dared question the rulers on high on any matter .... you were declared mentally ill, requiring a stay at the local gulag/re-education center.

Nothing new here .... the leftists always follow the same basic game plan. Eliminate individual rights, one by one, under the guise of "the greater good" collectivist model. Disarm the populace, so that they are defenseless against the well armed agents of the State .... seize total control of food production and distribution, and create a society totally dependent on the State. Once total dependence is achieved, "Independence" is destroyed.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 08:37 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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that in itself is a conspiracy.....

my cousin worked in Hollywood all his life, and didn't get very far, b/c he refused to play the game...
just as there is a corporate game one must play to get ahead, I've been told that Hollywood is more political then Washington....

also have a friend whose son was a Corporal, and I won't go into any more detail....but caught a few politicians poaching...and they set him up...he lost his job...everything....but they didn't care, and I cannot go into anymore detail then that, and believe me, that was small time compared to what really goes on.
Power Play:
October 1997 -- Power and Corporate Politics
 
Old 06-02-2015, 09:28 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Stories like these don't exactly help counter such views

Daily Progress

"...

The Obama administration had until recently been directing local authorities through secret agreements not to reveal their own use of the devices, even encouraging prosecutors to drop cases rather than disclose the technology's use in open court.

..."
 
Old 06-02-2015, 11:34 PM
 
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Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt.
- Julius Caesar, Gallic War, III:18.
. . .

It is nothing new because it is not in our nature to see things for what they are. We prefer to believe in fanciful notions that are untrue. Pope Alexander VI (Rodrigo Borgia 1431 - 1501) once said that men are so simple they will believe anything. The Borgia Pope, while the spiritual leader of the Church, was, if anything, a homme du monde; and, for all his faults, a keen observer of human nature, noting that it is a defect in the human character that we would rather listen to lies than believe the truth we can see with our own eyes. Even when forced to confront the facts, we deny them and make up excuses.

In The Prince (modeled after Pope Alexander’s son, Cesare Borgia), Niccolo Machiavelli wrote about the state and its rule as it is rather than as it should be, for which, after five centuries of experience, he continues to be roundly condemned. It is a social preference for what we choose to believe, though false, over what is in fact true. Great Caesar was right when he wrote: "Men willingly believe what they wish to be true."
And there is a recent book that delves into this topic at length:

Willful Blindness: Why We Ignore the Obvious at Our Peril: Margaret Heffernan: 9780802777966: Amazon.com: Books
 
Old 06-02-2015, 11:55 PM
 
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Such a defeatist.

Are you at least not contributing to our corrupt system while trying to sabotage it as best as you can? Or are you just doing exactly what they want you to do(IE being part of the problem)?
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The elite want us to think they're invincible and there's nothing we can do.
 
Old 06-03-2015, 02:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by azriverfan. View Post
Regardless of their political leaning, have you noticed certain individuals have a proclivity toward certain beliefs that distrust established organizations or individuals? They are distrustful but not paranoid to the point that they are schizophrenics. For example, you can almost predict the beliefs of certain individuals on this forum based on their opinions of other topics. They seem to share a certain pattern of thinking.

-accusing others of being communists or socialists
-distrust of government in general
-foreigners are a threat
-distrust people of races outside of their own
-people of faiths outside of their own
-distrust the medical system
-distrust the pharmaceutical industry
-distrust corporations
-patriotism means defying the government through illegal means if necessary due to distrust of government
-distrust the formal education system particularly colleges and universities
-distrust of "mainstream" media

What is your opinion, do you think this is new psychological personality disorder?
I guess anything can be classified as anything, but paranoia is human.

Look, human beings I think have a need to try to understand within our own mind, how things work, how things function, why something is occurring.


Yet our minds can't process randomness, or luck, or how whole systems of governments, natural resources, culture, industry, families, religions, etc interact in complex ways to produce a given outcome.

So because we don't have perfect information or understanding, because our minds seek to discern patterns because it can't deal with the random nature of reality, and because it is much easier for us to focus on the perceived motivations of individual human beings instead of complex interweaving systems, this leads to paranoid thinking, conspiracy theories in an attempt to understand the world our surroundings.

So in this way, it is not new, and not even abnormal. It is just human.
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