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Paranoid schizophrenia where one believes every-one conspiring against him is mental disorder, but it's not new by any means.
Just the other day I was telling some-one that I don't like corporate pizza (Like Dominos, Papa Jones, Piza Hut) I like local pizza makers. Food that is prepared by corporation tastes worst and has more sodium then food that you custom prepare for yourself.
I prefer my doctor to a major hospital hat is run like a corporation.
I prefer smaller government and do not trust a large one.
I believe in state rights as opposed to an omnipotent president, I would not trust an omnipotent president.
Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt.
- Julius Caesar, Gallic War, III:18.
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It is nothing new because it is not in our nature to see things for what they are. We prefer to believe in fanciful notions that are untrue. Pope Alexander VI (Rodrigo Borgia 1431 - 1501) once said that men are so simple they will believe anything. The Borgia Pope, while the spiritual leader of the Church, was, if anything, a homme du monde; and, for all his faults, a keen observer of human nature, noting that it is a defect in the human character that we would rather listen to lies than believe the truth we can see with our own eyes. Even when forced to confront the facts, we deny them and make up excuses.
In The Prince (modeled after Pope Alexander’s son, Cesare Borgia), Niccolo Machiavelli wrote about the state and its rule as it is rather than as it should be, for which, after five centuries of experience, he continues to be roundly condemned. It is a social preference for what we choose to believe, though false, over what is in fact true. Great Caesar was right when he wrote: "Men willingly believe what they wish to be true."
I'm aware of that disorder but I feel this is different in the sense that the fear or distrust is limited to established organizations. Paranoid personality disorder encompasses a much bigger spectrum. For example, they may not have a distrust of individuals but rather organizations and larger groups.
Not true.
Paranoia often extends from individuals to groups. And can then extend further into larger entities like big corporations, governments, and world plots.
Oxford Dictionary's definition:
"a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, of drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality."
Notice that it says it may be an aspect of other personality disorders. Other definitions make this clearer, adding that generalized paranoia is only chronic suspicion gone out of normal control.
We are all suspicious. Suspicion is a biological imperative; it keeps us alive when we encounter something strange. Fear and suspicion are closely tied, as fear is also a biological imperative in all species of mammals.
Paranoia is just suspicion and fear fun taking over someone's brain.
It's a common thing, especially when a bit of suspicion proves to be true. A less fearful person can move on pretty easily afterwards, and a more fearful person may begin to develop new suspicions because the first did prove to be true.
Regardless of their political leaning, have you noticed certain individuals have a proclivity toward certain beliefs that distrust established organizations or individuals? They are distrustful but not paranoid to the point that they are schizophrenics. For example, you can almost predict the beliefs of certain individuals on this forum based on their opinions of other topics. They seem to share a certain pattern of thinking.
-accusing others of being communists or socialists
Anyone who wants me to pay higher taxes to support people who won't work, I distrust
-distrust of government in general
Are people so naive to think that government (made up of people) should be trusted?
-foreigners are a threat
... people who think I should be in a burka and be under someone else's full control and submissive
-distrust people of races outside of their own
... hmm, when one race is constatly attacking my race should I distrust?
-people of faiths outside of their own
... everyone has a right to their beliefs as long as it doesn't hurt anyone,
-distrust the medical system
... Who, the pencil pushers or the nurses?
-distrust the pharmaceutical industry
.... Who, the pencil pushers or the pharmacist?
-distrust corporations
... Corporations are not social institutions. They do what's best for them, I'll do what's best for me.
-patriotism means defying the government through illegal means if necessary due to distrust of government
... Who's defying government. I pay out the ass in taxes because I don't want to go to jail.
-distrust the formal education system particularly colleges and universities
... So why is it that education teaches us to work for someone else, why no financial education?
-distrust of "mainstream" media ... Ba ha ha, supposedly the watchdogs to keep our politicians honest? Ba ha ha ha
What is your opinion, do you think this is new psychological personality disorder?
Regardless of their political leaning, have you noticed certain individuals have a proclivity toward certain beliefs that distrust established organizations or individuals? They are distrustful but not paranoid to the point that they are schizophrenics. For example, you can almost predict the beliefs of certain individuals on this forum based on their opinions of other topics. They seem to share a certain pattern of thinking.
-accusing others of being communists or socialists
-distrust of government in general
-foreigners are a threat
-distrust people of races outside of their own
-people of faiths outside of their own
-distrust the medical system
-distrust the pharmaceutical industry
-distrust corporations
-patriotism means defying the government through illegal means if necessary due to distrust of government
-distrust the formal education system particularly colleges and universities
-distrust of "mainstream" media
What is your opinion, do you think this is new psychological personality disorder?
No. Not all of these are even bad. I don't trust mainstream media. It's actors telling us what we want to here. If you're watching Fox, they confirm what you already 'know' and if you watch... well, pretty much everything else, they confirm what you already 'know.' Same with government and corporations.
However, certain things are more an issue literacy. People who have sever distrust in the pharmaceutical industry lack the scientific literacy to know things like 'vaccines are perfectly fine.' There is some reason to have some distrust, but when people literally refuse basic medicine, they're doing so because they don't understand science.
Which of course if because of the internet. The internet has done great things but it's come at quite a cost. A lot of people get their knowledge form Facebook friends who post absolutely invalid articles on all kinds of things. There are hundreds of websites explaining why GMO food is bad. Guess how many of them have scientific research studies listed as a source.
Nah, the root cause of these are not personality disorders. There may be some paranoia among this crowd (which is a disorder, but not a new one), but just holding some of these views isn't necessarily a disorder. It's not being well informed. Ironically, it's being too trusting. A lot of the conspiracy theorists make a convincing point as to why the government isn't to be trusted. And really, at that level, they aren't always wrong. I agree there for the most part, but I still know the chemtrails are BS because saying one true thing doesn't make everything you say exactly true. Assuming it does is how people get involved with cults.
Regardless of their political leaning, have you noticed certain individuals have a proclivity toward certain beliefs that distrust established organizations or individuals? They are distrustful but not paranoid to the point that they are schizophrenics. For example, you can almost predict the beliefs of certain individuals on this forum based on their opinions of other topics. They seem to share a certain pattern of thinking.
-accusing others of being communists or socialists
-distrust of government in general
-foreigners are a threat
-distrust people of races outside of their own
-people of faiths outside of their own
-distrust the medical system
-distrust the pharmaceutical industry
-distrust corporations
-patriotism means defying the government through illegal means if necessary due to distrust of government
-distrust the formal education system particularly colleges and universities
-distrust of "mainstream" media
What is your opinion, do you think this is new psychological personality disorder?
Thinking outside the box and standing alone has been frowned upon since it was first conceived by ONE brave soul who dare to go against the grain. Let everyone else go across the train trestle because they don't see a train. That worked out well for the boys on Stand By Me....didn't it?!
"What the common man longs for in this world, before and above all his other longings, is the simplest and most ignominious sort of peace: the peace of a trusty in a well-managed penitentiary. He is willing to sacrifice everything else to it. He puts it above his dignity and he puts it above his pride. Above all, he puts it above his liberty. This fact, perhaps, explains his veneration for policemen, in all the forms they take–his belief that there is a mysterious sanctity in law, however absurd it may be in fact.
A policeman is a charlatan who offers, in return for obedience, to protect him (a) from his superiors, (b) from his equals, and (c) from himself. This last service, under democracy, is commonly the most esteemed of them all. In the United States, at least theoretically, it is the only thing that keeps ice-wagon drivers, Y.M.C.A. secretaries, insurance collectors and other such human camels from smoking opium, ruining themselves in the night clubs, and going to Palm Beach with Follies girls . . . Under the pressure of fanaticism, and with the mob complacently applauding the show, democratic law tends more and more to be grounded upon the maxim that every citizen is, by nature, a traitor, a libertine, and a scoundrel. In order to dissuade him from his evil-doing the police power is extended until it surpasses anything ever heard of in the oriental monarchies of antiquity."
And this one...
"Liberty and democracy are eternal enemies, and every one knows it who has ever given any sober reflection to the matter. A democratic state may profess to venerate the name, and even pass laws making it officially sacred, but it simply cannot tolerate the thing. In order to keep any coherence in the governmental process, to prevent the wildest anarchy in thought and act, the government must put limits upon the free play of opinion. In part, it can reach that end by mere propaganda, by the bald force of its authority — that is, by making certain doctrines officially infamous.But in part it must resort to force, i.e., to law.
One of the main purposes of laws in a democratic society is to put burdens upon intelligence and reduce it to impotence. Ostensibly, their aim is to penalize anti-social acts; actually their aim is to penalize heretical opinions. At least ninety-five Americans out of every 100 believe that this process is honest and even laudable; it is practically impossible to convince them that there is anything evil in it. In other words, they cannot grasp the concept of liberty. Always they condition it with the doctrine that the state, i.e., the majority, has a sort of right of eminent domain in acts, and even in ideas — that it is perfectly free, whenever it is so disposed, to forbid a man to say what he honestly believes. Whenever his notions show signs of becoming "dangerous," ie, of being heard and attended to, it exercises that prerogative. And the overwhelming majority of citizens believe in supporting it in the outrage."
Another one of my favs...
"The only guarantee of the Bill of Rights which continues to have any force and effect is the one prohibiting quartering troops on citizens in time of peace. All the rest have been disposed of by judicial interpretation and legislative whittling. Probably the worst thing that has happened in America in my time is the decay of confidence in the courts. No one can be sure any more that in a given case they will uphold the plainest mandate of the Constitution. On the contrary, everyone begins to be more or less convinced in advance that they won't. Judges are chosen not because they know the Constitution and are in favor of it, but precisely because they appear to be against it."
And this one by Thomas Jefferson..
"Men by their constitutions are naturally divided into two parties: 1. Those who fear and distrust the people, and wish to draw all powers from them into the hands of the higher classes. 2. Those who identify themselves with the people, have confidence in them, cherish and consider them as the most honest and safe, although not the most wise depository of the public interests. In every country these two parties exist, and in every one where they are free to think, speak, and write, they will declare themselves. Call them, therefore, Liberals and Serviles, Jacobins and Ultras, Whigs and Tories, Republicans and Federalists, Aristocrats and Democrats, or by whatever name you please, they are the same parties still and pursue the same object. The last one of Aristocrats and Democrats is the true one expressing the essence of all."
In my opinion, anyone who doesn't distrust the government, is either naive, ignorant, or has a mental disorder.
One reading of Mikhail Bakunin's "Theory of the state", and/or Lysander Spooner's "No Treason"; Would forever turn any rational person off to the supposed sanctity or benevolence of government, regardless of its form.
there are valid reasons not to trust corporations and governments. How is that a personality disorder?
With that said, I am actually less of a conspiracy nut than I was 10 years ago. More to the point, life is too short to be shaking one's fist at the sky at things one cannot change and should not waste their time with. Family and friends are what's important.
I no longer care about jews in power, supposed "chemtrails" or big pharma/monsanto. I do believe 9/11 was an inside job but honestly don't care and the truth will never come out as it's reported the way 'they' want it to be reported anyways. Why get so upset about fractional reserve banking when you're not going to be able to get the banking oligarchy out of power from behind your computer at home? Illuminati? Who cares.
Most of written history is corrupt. Don't kid yourself. But does it really matter? Not really.
However... I have no desire to be talking about sports or celebrity/local gossip so what does that leave me if I wanna converse with people? Talking about guns, politics, science, the economy, to anyone who will bother to listen. Monsanto is more interesting to talk about than the latest baseball/basketball game (for me)
Why get so upset about fractional reserve banking when you're not going to be able to get the banking oligarchy out of power from behind your computer at home? Illuminati? Who cares.
Such a defeatist.
Are you at least not contributing to our corrupt system while trying to sabotage it as best as you can? Or are you just doing exactly what they want you to do(IE being part of the problem)?
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